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1 posted on 11/23/2015 6:42:15 AM PST by paterfamilias
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We can dream...


2 posted on 11/23/2015 6:51:23 AM PST by karnage
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Deshaun Watson (Clemson) should be in the running as he also shows both qualities.

Seeing how Navy has been a bigtime success this season I would see the Heisman going to Reynolds.

3 posted on 11/23/2015 6:51:34 AM PST by corkoman
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Go Navy
Beat Houston


4 posted on 11/23/2015 6:53:07 AM PST by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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I can’t disagree with that.

I’ve long felt that there were plenty of players (in the smaller schools) who were as deserving of the Heisman as someone from Alabama, Florida or USC.


5 posted on 11/23/2015 7:05:19 AM PST by MplsSteve
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For the decades we have gathered for the Army-Navy game and rooted for Army! For the past decade PLUS, it has been a particularly forlorn hope. This year, I will AGAIN say “Go Army” but THIS Navy team - WOW! To paraphrase that old Simon & Garfunkel song, I now know where Roger Staubach’s doppleganger has now gone! FYI: Roger won the Heisman in 1963 - I feel so old!

For 10 Army classes, beginning with the Class of 2005, it has been a losing season their entire school life and this will likely make it #11. It is not fair, 14 straight loses! I demand that football parity be restored! (I’m not holding my breath!)


7 posted on 11/23/2015 7:26:11 AM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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...pursuit of excellence with integrity.

Well, I'm not convinced that has always been the case.

Anyone remember a crab legs thief and rape suspect by the name of Jameis Winston?

Or the computer thief Cam Newton, who may or may not have been bought and paid for by Auburn in their pursuit of a National Championship?

Ability seems to be the sole criteria, now.

I'm not taking anything away from the athletic ability of either of those aforementioned, but their integrity (and there are more) is certainly suspect.

Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work.

In a perfect world, the athletic ability would weight the decision perhaps just a little less than the diligence, perseverance and hard work assessments would.

I recall several candidates that stood head and shoulders above some winners, those winners judged solely by the amount of receiving/running yards, number of TD's, etc, as opposed to all that, with exemplary extracurricular and scholastic achievements simply ignored.

The Heisman Trophy has cheapened itself of late...and truth be told, has become a weather vane for the candidates success in placement on the NFL draft rosters.

On a personal level, as a purist in regards to the original intent and purpose of academic sports at the college level, it now means nothing to me.

Not that the Heisman Trust cares for my opinion, but it is my opinion and I do not think I'm alone in it.

8 posted on 11/23/2015 7:40:15 AM PST by OldSmaj (Nearly 8 years of obamafail. How much more must we endure? Impeachment!)
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Hubs is a ‘77 grad and pa is a ‘47 grad so we’re all in...
And yes, we root for Army whenever they play anyone else (even Air Force...)
Hope this kid, Reynolds, gets the Heisman...
Super “role model”, nice family, great attitude, all around good guy...it seems....
...or does that matter anymore?


11 posted on 11/23/2015 8:06:30 AM PST by matginzac
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