Posted on 12/10/2015 9:35:35 AM PST by Isara
‘polka-dot charts’
That’s the dreaded Twister Scorecard. It’s been dissected and debunked a thousand times, but is still considered by some to be game, set and match. After a while, you just have to shake your head.
‘I try to separate them from my personal view of Cruz, but they really make you unenthusiastic about him like no one in the media could.’
So true. The insultomatics do no good for any candidate. But just try telling them that. For too many, it seems, he who types the most—and worst—flames wins.
Amen. I am firmly in Ted’s corner.
The Iowa win will give him more media time for sure and any exposure this man gets is another chance for people to hear his clear vision.
PUH-leeeeeeeze. Seriously?????????
I have been called much, much worse by Trump supporters, and while there are too many Cruz supporters who do what you say and I hate it when they do, there are other Cruz supporters LIKE ME who refrain from such personal insults when talking to Trump supporters. You can check my posts in-forum if you want proof. I have many loved ones who are Trump supporters and for that reason I treat all Trump supporters with respect.
How about advocating that people AVOID choosing a "conservative" patriotic self-promoted celebrity CEO with a long history of left-leaning politics who only joined the Republican party in 2009 -- right at the time that it finally LEFT me and most other conservatives?
Trump re-discovered his affection for the Republican party, after a 10-year hiatus spent mostly as a Democrat, right at the time it nominated the worst candidate possible, John McCain -- and Trump ENDORSED HIM then even though Trump was a Democrat at the time; a year later, Trump switched to the Republican party, started donating to it exclusively, and IT WENT DOWNHILL FROM THERE, nominating an even worse candidate, Mitt Romney, in 2012.
How about facing that truth, instead of complaining about being called names by frustrated Cruz supporters?
FACT THE FACTS, please: Over the past 26 years, Donald Trump demonstrably leaned very left-moderate politically, switched political parties three times, and used the MSM to create a purely marketed brand image that exaggerates his abilities as "brilliant businessman" in a context of U.S. billionaire entrepreneurs and real estate moguls where Trump is actually third rate (click the link and scroll down ... down ... down ... down ... down ... until you finally find where he ranks among his competitors). Trump had effusive and affectionate praise for Hillary and Bill Clinton only eight years ago.
FACE FACTS.
Are those Syrian refugees or Dreamers from south of the border?
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What on earth are you talking about? There is no Cruz coronation. Never has been, never will be. When there are so many looking to embrace a charasmatic candidate who has a track record for the other side, us Cruz supporters are facing quite the uphill battle here on FR. Cruz has a proven track record of defending liberty and the constitution, yet you talk like he is conservative in name only.
“There is no Cruz coronation.”
Tell that to the Cruz people that full demand that we all stop supporting Trump because he’s just some “carnival barker” that’s really just “a stalking house for Hillary”, that’s only trying to “sell his brand”, and get behind Cruz immediately.
“Cruz has a proven track record of defending liberty and the constitution,”
He has no accomplishments as a senator outside of “standing up to the GOPe” (that doesn’t actually mean anything of substance), and having every one one of his bills go down to defeat.
So there have been two-or three if you count GW twice.
I get it. I avoid a lot of threads this time of year because I don't want to get caught up with the fights over which conservative is better. As long as we get a real conservative I'll be more than happy to support him, or her.
I worry about that as a general trend. If we get caught up in "my candidate or nothing" we all lose. As long as the candidate is a conservative I'll support them.
You’ve posted your anti Trump boilerplate to me before. I ignored it. Unless and until anti Trump people figure out why Trump is blowing out the polls, their ineffective and condescending arguments will never get to first base.
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Trump's Record on Free-market Issue: (from the Conservative Review)
Trump has a terrible record on free market issues. The only bright spot is the Federal Reserve's quantitative easing, but this glimmer is countermanded by his repeated support for bailing out Wall Street and the auto industry, and increased stimulus spending. Of particular concern is Trump's belief that the government can use eminent domain powers to seize private property in the name of private economic development. This comes as no surprise, given his support for using eminent domain to profit his own company.
Trump supported the Supreme Court’s 2005 decision in Kelo v. City of London, allowing public authorities to seize private land for economic development by private investors; Trump said, “I happen to agree with [the decision] 100 percent.” (National Review) This is no surprise given Trump’s attempt to use eminent domain in his own line of work. (Institute for Justice)
Trump supported President Obama’s 2009 stimulus, saying: “The word stimulus is probably not used in its fullest…you know, certain of the things that were given weren't really stimulus. They were pork, as we call it, or they were gifts to certain people. But overall, I think he's [President Obama] doing very well. You do need stimulus and you do have to keep the banks alive.” (CNN)
Trump supported TARP, saying, "You had to do something to shore up the banks, because ... you would have had a run on every bank." (CNN)
Trump supported the 2008 auto bailout, saying, “I think the government should stand behind them 100 percent. You cannot lose the auto companies. They’re great. They make wonderful products.” He also said that the federal government could “easily save the companies.” (Daily Caller)
Trump criticized the Federal Reserve’s intervention in the debt market, saying quantitative easing creates “phony numbers” that mislead the marketplace and “will not ultimately benefit the economy. The dollar will go down in value and inflation will start rearing its ugly head.” (CNBC)
Donald Trump has a history of using eminent domain to complete business deals. Multiple times Trump has supported the use of government agencies to take possession of homes and businesses for use in his private business plans. Eminent domain seizures are reserved only for public use of property rather than abuse by the government taking property from one individual and giving to another. (Washington Post)
Donald Trump has sought and received crony capitalist tax breaks for his commercial properties in New York. These tax breaks, and even an abatement, force the property taxes of other property owners to rise at the expense of the connected. Special treatment for one business or industry over another with the tax code conflicts with free market principles. (National Review)
In 2009, Trump supported Barack Obama's call for limits on the pay of executives. (CNN)
Yet you completely discount his history before being a Senator. Additionally, those bills in defeat are because of how conservative they are. It certainly is not for lack of trying. When you have treasonous backstabbers like Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn running the show, you can see how difficult getting a conservative agenda passed is.
My question is on what record does Trump HAVE that Cruz does not? How many instances of cases did the Donald take to the Supreme Court? How many times did he stand up for gun rights? Where is HIS record on anything??? Twitter? Maybe the archives at NBC? He has less of a record than Cruz has ever had, yet you follow Trump unabashedly.
“Yet you completely discount his history before being a Senator”
Which to the general public is even less relevant.
“Additionally, those bills in defeat are because of how conservative they are. It certainly is not for lack of trying”
They are still defeats. Most not even close to passage. And this is with a GOP senate.
“When you have treasonous backstabbers like Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn running the show, you can see how difficult getting a conservative agenda passed is.”
Then what the public will say? You cannot even get your own party on-board with what you are telling us you will do as president. Do you think the media isnt going to latch onto that?
“My question is on what record does Trump HAVE that Cruz does not?”
Taking out all of the defeated bills in the Senate. About the same. But Trump has an entire business empire that people do know about, have seen, and know that it has been run well.
“How many instances of cases did the Donald take to the Supreme Court?”
Do you think the general public cares a wiff about that? Seriously, you think a person having a choice between Hillary and Cruz will tip it to Cruz because he argued some cases before the Supreme Court?
“How many times did he stand up for gun rights?”
Plenty. He carries himself.
“Where is HIS record on anything??? Twitter?”
No. He’s a billionaire through his business ventures. That doesn’t happen by luck.
“He has less of a record than Cruz has ever had,”
Oh they have records. You just attribute Cruz’s as being more relevant because it has the title “senator” attached to it.
Eight years ago, we were all watching the worst possible candidate that EVERYONE opposed, John McCain, win the Republican nomination, then voting for him even though we loathed him.
Four years ago, some of us woke up to the fact that we were voting for amoral evil-abetting functional Democrats wearing Republican ball hats, and an even worse candidate than McCain, Romney, lost.
Eight years ago, Donald Trump was a Democrat with warm and effusive praise for Bill and Hillary Clinton (you can look it up), yet officially endorsed McCain (you can look it up), and became a Republican in 2009.
Four years ago he toyed with the idea of a run, but up to that point for the past 20 years had been donating almost equally (more to Democrats) to both parties as "a cost of doing business." He began donating exclusively to the party of McCain and Romney in about 2011.
Trump has a long history of left-leaning big government lefty "moderate" political opinions. The only reason Trump is famous at all is because he made himself a celebrity by using the MSM (TV, books, and marketing) to establish a trusting relationship with America.
If you investigate a Forbes magazine piece about his exaggerating YUGELY his net worth, you'll discover that apparently Trump puts a very high dollar value on that "personal brand." It's a brand of trust established through media.
You are asking me to vote for that. When I refuse, you want to change the subject about how your butt hurts because some Cruz supporters said mean things to you. My butt hurts too, buddy, because Trump supporters have said called me a lot worse things.
But it's not about my butt or your butt.
It's about who to choose to run for president. Your guy is a bad risk and I have excellent reason for thinking so.
For once, just look at the bare facts and truth.
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