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1 posted on 12/11/2015 1:17:56 PM PST by Hojczyk
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Allowing women to serve in Navy SEAL, Army Delta or other commando units could hurt their effectiveness and lower the standards, and it may drive men away from the dangerous posts.

How is this different from any other unit?

We are seeing a political agenda being played out irregardless of its consequences.

2 posted on 12/11/2015 1:20:58 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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Does Ashton Carter’s decision override all of this?
It wouldn’t surprise me. Dictate! That’s the Obama Way.


3 posted on 12/11/2015 1:21:39 PM PST by lee martell
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What?
How insensitive of them.
Next thing you know, they will not want diaper changing stations in the new Abrams tanks.


4 posted on 12/11/2015 1:23:32 PM PST by Bon mots
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Don’t worry Obama doesn’t have enough time left at the White House to implement this


5 posted on 12/11/2015 1:23:37 PM PST by butlerweave
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head line translate to; I don't want die just because a female recruit isn't physically/mentally capable to do the job that is required. News flash: obozo is pushing this issue for that very reason.
6 posted on 12/11/2015 1:26:44 PM PST by drypowder
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I was with armored cavalry in Vietnam. I know it would have hampered our combat effectiveness. In fact, I would say it would have made it impossible. And the infantry had it a lot even rougher.


8 posted on 12/11/2015 1:29:28 PM PST by onedoug
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Not surprising. You need good group chemistry on these missions. Romantic rivalries, guys thinking with their other heads, not good for business.


9 posted on 12/11/2015 1:31:36 PM PST by Moorings
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Sorry, I had to...

10 posted on 12/11/2015 1:33:11 PM PST by W. (Make that rubble BOUNCE!)
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This is not going to end well


14 posted on 12/11/2015 1:54:12 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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If, and I mean IF some woman somewhere could pass the standards (no lowering for gender), then she might be allowed to join. The special forces have those standards for a reason - every single one of them. My husband was a firefighter for over 20 years and very few women could pass the standards they set. A person’s life is dependent on each and every one being able to live up to the standards every single day.

Special ops is not attainable for 99% of the men they are the cream of the crop. Letting women join for political reasons is the possible death knell for these elite forces - literally.


16 posted on 12/11/2015 1:56:30 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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"Gen. Joseph Votel, head of U.S. Special Operations Command, posted a memo and video online last week after Carter’s announcement, explaining the decision and vowing that the qualifying standards for special operations jobs will remain the same."

This is the ONLY angle remaining to fight this.

But, eventually, the politicians will water down the qualifying standards for special operations, and will "gender norm" them.

That said, ANY woman who can pass BUDS as it is today, is qualified.

Unquestionably.

But, there is not a woman in the world today, or in the history of mankind, that can.

There are women who are fit enough. And there are women who are strong enough.

But those two do not appear together in women.

17 posted on 12/11/2015 2:13:34 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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Putting women in certain military positions obviously will put men in danger. It’s not fair and it’s not equal. Men have value too and they are just as important as women. Men are sons, husbands, fathers, brothers, grandsons, cousins and friends. Electing a (certain) woman as commander-in-chief might or should I say “will” put all our soldiers, male and female, in danger as well as our citizens. We need to see that common sense is a equalizer, common sense is fair, not everyone is the same, not everyone is equal, not everyone has the same abilities. Yet, everyone has value and our men, soldiers, sailors, warriors have as much value as women. Stop the insane social experiments, individuals are more important to society then insane societal experiments.


18 posted on 12/11/2015 2:40:55 PM PST by This I Wonder32460
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let them serve on obama’s security detail..... and his family too....


20 posted on 12/11/2015 2:58:44 PM PST by zzwhale
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Leftism is a form of severe mental illness. And the American people are so mentally ill that they elected the worst of them. Twice.


22 posted on 12/11/2015 3:21:56 PM PST by afsnco
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How many women are in the NBA or NFL ?

They can’t get in if physical requirements are equal.


23 posted on 12/11/2015 3:32:57 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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Of course they don’t. This entire issue is ridiculous.


24 posted on 12/11/2015 3:39:15 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Allowing women to serve in Navy SEAL, Army Delta or other commando units could hurt their effectiveness and lower the standards, and it may drive men away from the dangerous posts.

&&&&

Yep, major leftist objective right there:
Destroy effectiveness and combat readiness in order to make our military incapable of protecting the country.


25 posted on 12/11/2015 3:52:52 PM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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Women are ruining sports talk radio too.


26 posted on 12/11/2015 3:54:21 PM PST by MUDDOG
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Active Duty ping.


27 posted on 12/11/2015 3:55:49 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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If you want a historical perspective on this issue lets go back to the Cold War when SAC tried mix gender missile launch crews.

There should be plenty of historical documentation dealing with the social conflicts that developed in both the launch control cab and at home.

Remember the operational conditions were sitting in an environmentally controlled environment for 48 hours and then home. Compare this to humping the dusty hills in you battle raddle.


29 posted on 12/11/2015 4:11:41 PM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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