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In A First, Trump Goes On Offensive Against Cruz
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Posted on 12/11/2015 7:08:47 PM PST by springwater13

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To: JoSixChip
The problem with Cruz is his supporters. You guys really make him look like a nasty piece of work.

I agree...If Cruz dropped out of the race, his support would go to hillary...

41 posted on 12/11/2015 8:59:42 PM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Isara
Trump supported TARP, auto bailout and Porkulus bill, i.e., Trump is for big government and big businesses. And, of course, he is for Renewable Fuel Standard, so governement can pick winners and losers.

Trump's Record on Free-market Issue: (from the Conservative Review)

Trump has a terrible record on free market issues. The only bright spot is the Federal Reserve's quantitative easing, but this glimmer is countermanded by his repeated support for bailing out Wall Street and the auto industry, and increased stimulus spending. Of particular concern is Trump's belief that the government can use eminent domain powers to seize private property in the name of private economic development. This comes as no surprise, given his support for using eminent domain to profit his own company.

Trump supported the Supreme Court’s 2005 decision in Kelo v. City of London, allowing public authorities to seize private land for economic development by private investors; Trump said, “I happen to agree with [the decision] 100 percent.” (National Review)  This is no surprise given Trump’s attempt to use eminent domain in his own line of work. (Institute for Justice)

Trump supported President Obama’s 2009 stimulus, saying: “The word stimulus is probably not used in its fullest…you know, certain of the things that were given weren't really stimulus. They were pork, as we call it, or they were gifts to certain people. But overall, I think he's [President Obama] doing very well. You do need stimulus and you do have to keep the banks alive.” (CNN

Trump supported TARP, saying, "You had to do something to shore up the banks, because ... you would have had a run on every bank." (CNN

Trump supported the 2008 auto bailout, saying, “I think the government should stand behind them 100 percent. You cannot lose the auto companies. They’re great. They make wonderful products.” He also said that the federal government could “easily save the companies.” (Daily Caller

Trump criticized the Federal Reserve’s intervention in the debt market, saying quantitative easing creates “phony numbers” that mislead the marketplace and “will not ultimately benefit the economy. The dollar will go down in value and inflation will start rearing its ugly head.” (CNBC

Donald Trump has a history of using eminent domain to complete business deals. Multiple times Trump has supported the use of government agencies to take possession of homes and businesses for use in his private business plans. Eminent domain seizures are reserved only for public use of property rather than abuse by the government taking property from one individual and giving to another. (Washington Post

Donald Trump has sought and received crony capitalist tax breaks for his commercial properties in New York. These tax breaks, and even an abatement, force the property taxes of other property owners to rise at the expense of the connected. Special treatment for one business or industry over another with the tax code conflicts with free market principles. (National Review

In 2009, Trump supported Barack Obama's call for limits on the pay of executives. (CNN)

42 posted on 12/11/2015 9:01:35 PM PST by Isara
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To: springwater13
Trump Cruz 2016

Truz Control


43 posted on 12/11/2015 9:01:58 PM PST by E20erer
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To: Isara
It's not Trump VS Cruz It's Trump AND Cruz, otherwise known as TRUZ


44 posted on 12/11/2015 9:10:42 PM PST by E20erer
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To: springwater13

45 posted on 12/11/2015 9:10:57 PM PST by entropy12
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To: JediJones

Cruz is against subsidizing any form of energy. He thinks the free market should decide. Looks like Trump is beholden to the ethanol cartel. Talk about pandering.


46 posted on 12/11/2015 9:13:41 PM PST by JJHLH1
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Campaign fun. They’re both great regardless.


47 posted on 12/11/2015 9:15:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Electric Graffiti
C’mon Batman.....leave Robin alone.

C'mon liberal leave the conservative alone.

48 posted on 12/11/2015 9:17:49 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Batman? LOL, Trump is The Joker. He’s trolling everyone.


49 posted on 12/11/2015 9:37:18 PM PST by Josh Painter (As government expands, liberty contracts - Ronald Reagan)
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To: springwater13; All
Thank you for referencing that article springwater13. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Regardless what FDRs activist justices wanted everybody to believe about the scope of Congresss Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3), neither constitutionally low-information Trump, Harvard Law School-indoctrinated Cruz, or the low-information citizens of Iowa seem to understand that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for intrastate agricultural purposes.

In fact, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified this not only in general, but also singling out agriculture as a specific example.

So Cruz is right to discourage subsidies, not that he or any post-FDR era law school grad can argue specific constitutional problems with subsidies.

And if Iowa farmers are understandably concerned about lost federal subsidies then they can do the following. They can work with their state lawmakers to lead the states to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, like the taxes used pay for agricultural subsidies.

50 posted on 12/11/2015 9:56:44 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: springwater13
"I love ethanol. It's great!"
51 posted on 12/11/2015 10:11:04 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Isara



52 posted on 12/12/2015 12:12:53 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Iscool

so you support ethanol? Are you crazy?

And BTW, our own AMERICAN oil has almost made us indy from Arab oil. OPEC is not even a factor anymore.


53 posted on 12/12/2015 4:00:39 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Luircin
Will you criticize Cruz for ‘going full crony illegal immigration’?

oh, nice try.....really nice try....wrong, poor analogy, not true, but nice try. I mean actually, laughable.

54 posted on 12/12/2015 4:02:33 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: odawg; SoConPubbie
You are a writer and you can’t recognize literary devices?

....HAH...actually, yes I'm a writer and you just missed MY LITERARY DEVICE......hah, you are so funny when you are so over your head.

SoConPubbie....thanks...

55 posted on 12/12/2015 4:04:17 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: thestob
.it’s full Jim Jones mode at this point

....yeah, that's a funny way of putting it....heck, now Kelo and ethanol subsidies are conservative values on FR.

56 posted on 12/12/2015 4:06:00 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: C. Edmund Wright
And BTW, our own AMERICAN oil has almost made us indy from Arab oil. OPEC is not even a factor anymore.

We all love these cheap A-rab oil prices...But it will only last until domestic oil production is destroyed...Who doesn't know that???

57 posted on 12/12/2015 4:42:38 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Iscool

-— it will only last until domestic oil production is destroyed..-—

It will only stall production. The fracking technology genie can’t be put back in the bottle. SA has to know this, so I’m not sure what they’re after.


58 posted on 12/12/2015 4:45:26 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Iscool

I don’t think you understand the energy markets, and if you support ethanol, I KNOW you don’t.


59 posted on 12/12/2015 4:46:01 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Thorliveshere
Come on, he's really going to pull the "he's bought by big oil" line, really?

He didn't. He answered a question and the fact is that big oil has donated substantially to Cruz. Somewhere he has to highlight differences and this was a pretty mild way to go about it - hardly the "attack" that the GOPe/NRC/Left would love to make it seem like...

Perhaps part of the solution for Cruz is to have more of the everyday People donate. So many have such a wide array of opinions and so few are willing to actually invest in the Nation's future - kind of pathetic when one thinks about it.

Now for a short public service announcement to all on FR:
We need to ensure we don't get another Obama-like America Hater as the next President.
The best way to ensure that is to actively support a candidate as the next President.
I prefer Cruz and my money goes to his campaign, hence the Cruz link. If you like someone else, donate to him/her (find your own link to do it) and if you use FR and don't donate, then please don't complain about the welfare leeches or those who have Obama Phones because, functionally, you are no different than any other FReeloader

PS - If you are one of those who cannot afford even a small donation to FR or a candidate, God Bless and happy FReeping!.....

GO CRUZ!! Keep it up Trump!!

Donate to FR

Donate to Cruz

Donate to FR

60 posted on 12/12/2015 4:47:21 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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