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To: JSDude1

And the Cruz fanatics seem a bit disconnected from reality, which makes them perfect foils to engage. For example, how can anyone say Cruz is surging or winning when he draws out dozens and hundreds of supporters and Trump in the thousands and tens of thousands. This reality check should not be so easily dismissed. Further, that Cruz has gotten away with playing hypocritical stands on TPP and Iran, has tossed the towel on social issues, has long favored 500% increase in H1B, has offered amendments to help legislation giving amnesty pass, then says it was just politics. He’s playing people. Even now won’t say deport, for example. Yes, I think these and more need to be pointed out every time someone comes along with these Cruz or Lose fantasies that fit well with a small group of people but not the general electorate. We need a winner, a general election winner, not a martyr. Go with Cruz and lose. This doesn’t need insults, just real discussion. Again, start with crowd size, which is more real than any poll as people have to go, have to stand in line, etc. Tell me how Cruz’s small crowds equate to victory? If only one answer, please answer that.


22 posted on 12/29/2015 10:05:56 PM PST by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: Reno89519
Incisive mini-essay. We who find great strengths in Cruz need to confront the points you
raise. In what way is Cruz's candidacy more winning than Trump's?
23 posted on 12/29/2015 10:13:57 PM PST by jobim
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To: Reno89519
has long favored 500% increase in H1B

Seems you, like a good little trump fan-boy, left out salient facts concerning your spew against Ted Cruz:

With regards to the H1-B program:

Sens. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) together are promoting new legislation to reform the H-1B visa program, after scores of abuses by companies including Disney, Southern California Edison and more.

The bill, the American Jobs First Act of 2015, is essentially an antidote to the woes of the H-1B program. The bill, which represents a crackdown on immigration program abuses by special interests, has several components.

First, it requires companies that use H-1B workers to pay such visa holders “either what an American worker who did identical or similar work made two years prior to the recruiting effort, or $110,000,” whichever is higher. What that does is it takes the incentive to pay foreigners less than Americans away from corporations, thereby ending the ability for the program to be abused in that regard.

Second, the bill requires that within 730 days—two years—of “an employee strike, an employer lockout, layoffs, furloughs, or other types of involuntary employee terminations other than for-cause dismissals,” a company cannot bring aboard any H-1B labor. That means it wouldn’t be able to replace Americans with foreigners. The bill also has more transparency requirements throughout.

Cruz, in an appearance on Breitbart News Daily with Stephen K. Bannon on SiriusXM 125 the Patriot Channel on Friday morning, laid out the importance of the bill.

“Jeff Sessions and I together we launched a major reform bill on the H-1B visa program. As you know, the H-1B visa program was designed to bring in high-skilled workers,” Cruz said.

25 posted on 12/29/2015 10:16:51 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Reno89519

Again: I guess you can’t really tell me WHY you’re for TRUMP@?

Perhaps you just hate Cruz (for some unexplainable reason)? I really don’t get it because you claim that Cruz fanatics are this or that, but some Trump supporters are prone to fantasy (and claim to have foreknowledge) when their opinions are just that, OPINION, not fact (not saying some Cruz supporters don’t do the same thing, but I tend to notice when people post untrue things on pro-Cruz threads)..


26 posted on 12/29/2015 10:18:08 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Reno89519
Here is Ted Cruz's Immigration Plan. Much more detailed and comprehensive than the sound-bites of Trump:

Source:

CRUZ PLAN TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION:
SECURE THE BORDER, RESTORE THE RULE OF LAW, AND PROTECT AMERICANS

"It's not that we don't know how to solve illegal immigration. What is missing is the political will to get it done. And, as president, I will get it done. We will secure the borders." - Ted Cruz

Summary

We have a serious immigration problem in America. The American people understand that we must reverse the policies that invite criminals and terrorists to defy the law, allow manipulation of our generous immigration system, and reward illegal immigrants for their actions. Sadly, while the Obama Administration ignores our immigration laws and abuses its executive authority, the Washington Cartel refuses to stand up and insist that the law be followed.

We see proof of Washington’s immigration failure every day. Across this nation, there are roughly 340 sanctuary jurisdictions, each of which is led by politicians who ignore federal law and endanger our children. Their lawlessness has been encouraged over the last seven years by President Obama, who has repeatedly tried to amend our immigration laws by fiat. He has issued no fewer than 20 unilateral directives through his Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to evade the law, often benefiting illegal immigrants at the expense of taxpayers and legal immigrants. Perhaps the only thing worse than President Obama’s dictatorial behavior is Congress’s utter failure to even try and stop him. This lawlessness must end, and it must end with the next President.

During my time in the United States Senate, I have consistently led the fight to stop President Obama’s unconstitutional immigration actions. When Establishment Republicans teamed up with Democrats to reward millions of illegal immigrants with amnesty, I engaged millions of men and women across the country. Together, we defeated President Obama’s attempt to pass amnesty, and we continue to lead the fight against congressional leadership each time it seeks to undermine the will of the American people.

A strong President can and must secure the border. Under current law, there is more than enough legal authority to do so; what is missing is the political will. In the Senate, I have stood consistently with the majority of Americans against amnesty and lawlessness, and I will do the same as President. I give you my solemn word that, if I am elected President, we will use that authority to secure the border, and to restore the value of American citizenship and the Rule of Law.

To strengthen national security, enhance the value of citizenship, and stop illegal immigration, we must take three steps:

The following outlines my plan to stop illegal immigration, restore the Rule of Law, and reform our legal immigration system to protect Americans.

"We stopped the Gang of Eight bill. Ted Cruz led the fight against the establishment. We would be living under amnesty right now if Cruz had not succeeded." - Rush Limbaugh

1. Secure the Border

A Cruz Administration's first priority for immigration reform will be to secure the U.S.-Mexico border. It is a travesty that the greatest nation in the world refuses to take even the most basic steps to prevent illegal immigrants from breaching its southern border. The porous border invites illegal crossings, exposes millions of American citizens to crime and economic harm, endangers the lives of those who make the treacherous journey at the mercy of cartels and coyotes, and represents perhaps the United States' single greatest national security vulnerability in the post-9/11 era.

To regain control of our border, a Cruz Administration will:

 

2. Restore the Rule of Law

President Obama, aided and abetted by a Congress that ignores its constitutional and moral duties, has abused his executive authority and refused to enforce the immigration laws that are currently on the books. These failures undermine immigration enforcement and endanger the American people. We need a President who will follow the law, hold those who break it accountable, and take seriously the duty to protect Americans. To restore the Rule of Law, a Cruz Administration will:

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3. Reform Legal Immigration to Protect Americans

We must continue to welcome and celebrate legal immigrants. For centuries, our nation has been a beacon of freedom for people around the globe. And it is the promise of America, and the people she has drawn to her shores since her founding, that have made this nation the greatest engine for growth and opportunity that the world has ever seen.

Under a Cruz Administration, we will keep the torch of liberty lit. But to do that, we must repair our immigration system so that it once again serves American interests and empowers people all over the world to pursue the American Dream. With this in mind, I will institute a series of reforms to strengthen our immigration system, protect national security, and spur economic prosperity.


48 posted on 12/29/2015 11:01:27 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Reno89519

It’s hard to debate issue with someone who can’t keep TPP and TPA straight (hint: Cruz has always been opposed to TPP.)

Does Trump draw larger crowds? Absolutely! Do large crowds = electoral success? Ask Howard Dean about that. Trump can absolutely turn electoral politics on its ear—he already has! But we won’t know until March 1if he can translate crowds into votes.

Cruz HAS said deport, on the record on live television. His record opposing amnesty is flawless.


59 posted on 12/30/2015 2:16:43 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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