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It Has Come to This (Donald Trump, for all of his flaws, must do.)
Americanthinker.com ^ | 12-30-20 | E.M. Cadwaladr

Posted on 12/30/2015 4:18:25 AM PST by servo1969

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To: spetznaz
..every single Democrat will vote for her...

I do NOT buy this!

61 posted on 12/30/2015 7:52:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Awgie

I believe you are the man for the job. But I continue to shout in my head as I hear you speak, missing the opportunity to broadcast a message of American Exceptionalism, Family, Faith, constitution, Rule of Law, Limited Government, Liberty and Leadership in the world.
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Sorry for the long response but I think you have hit upon Trump’s biggest problem. You are asking him to speak a language that is quite foreign to him. You are asking him to preach the gospel of conservatism when he has never been a believer.

Trump is fantastic on a few topics that mean something to conservatives. He is the best candidate, by far, when reflecting the anger of the people when it comes to immigration. Even the most ardent Cruz supporters will agree that what Trump is saying on immigration is right and that his non-PC narrative on this subject best captures the emotions of conservatives and non-conservatives alike.

Trump calls people names. It’s funny. Some of these people have had just such a brutal, public berating coming for a long, long time. It certainly grabs headlines and brings a bit of joy to the hearts of all conservatives. The fact that someone is calling Jeb, or whomever Trump’s target of the day happens to be, exactly what what we, ourselves, call that person every day is allowing us to breath a sigh of relief thinking, “Finally, someone had the balls to say it on national TV.”

Unfortunately, that is the end of Trump show. There is nothing more to be seen or heard. Now it is just re-runs of an old sit-com.

Limited government, constitutional restraint and other conservative themes are the ones he cannot address, eloquently or otherwise, because he doesn’t have a conservative foundation to build upon. Reagan didn’t have a populist, name-calling campaign of bombast. Reagan clearly delivered a message of hope and inspiration based entirely upon every facet of conservative principles, many of which you mentioned. Reagan made light of his opponents with humorous quips. Trump, on the other hand...

I believe Trump, somewhere beneath his bluster, is as pro-American as anyone could hope. His method to “make America great again,” however, is a complete mystery. As just one example, Trump said “Obamacare is a disaster” and needs to be replaced. Replaced with what? “Something terrific.” Can he be more specific? No. He hasn’t and he can’t. He has said that “everyone will be taken care of, don’t worry.”

Sorry Donald. I am worried. The solution is quite simple to conservatives. History is full of examples upon which to draw. Taking care of everyone sounds like another big government solution meant to replace a big government disaster. Both are destined to fail.

Trump cannot broaden his message because he does not have more of a message to deliver. He cannot raise his rhetoric because that just isn’t who he is.

I wish we had the perfect candidate. Cruz’ understanding of conservative principles, Huckabee’s folksy delivery, the running-for-Senate Rubio’s uplifting and anything is possible message with Trumps ability to capture the rage of the downtrodden. That candidate doesn’t exist.

I understand the initial appeal of Trump. November, however, is a long way off if America only hears about his polls and a wall with daily Twitter blasts of “stupid.” You want Trump to broaden his message and discuss first principles. I am afraid you will be disappointed. You have to go with the Trump you have.

The only other choice is you look to the candidate that has a broad conservative message and a deep constitutional foundation. This other candidate just doesn’t have the ability to capture the anger that only Trump can. Right now the polls show that people are more angry than conservative. Which one is the best choice for America is up to you.


62 posted on 12/30/2015 7:56:50 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Awgie
because of his energetic attacks on the PC culture the media and the unit party I am giving Donald an extended opportunity to introduce himself

I applaud all the attacks on the PC culture and the media, but especially the PC culture. It's why I'll vote for him over almost all the others....HOWEVER, he's had 69 years to introduce himself, and no limited gov or Constitutional concerns that I can locate. Maybe you're projecting what you hope - based on the PC stuff?

63 posted on 12/30/2015 8:02:06 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Amntn
You are so wrong. It is a pity you haven’t taken the time to do even a little real research on Trump or you would know his reasons.

I have watched Trump enough not to be blinded by him. Trump made noises about running for president three times in the past, for governor of New York twice, and sounded out Bush I about being his vice-president but lost out to Dan Quayle. He filed papers to run on the Reform party in 1999. He's wanted this for a long time and the idea that this is a sudden, yet regretful decision on his part or that he would rather be home playing with his grandkids but is running out of sense of duty and love of country is complete nonsense.

Name one other candidate that is willing to make the sacrifices that Trump has already made.

What sacrifice? Hitting the campaign trail? All of them. Setting aside their current jobs to run for president? All of them. Opening their background to examination and criticism? All of them. Trump is no different than the rest in his reason for running.

64 posted on 12/30/2015 8:04:02 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: FerociousRabbit
Thank you Rabbit for taking the time to post your thoughts. Your clarity is undeniable. I, and I believe others, will give Donald a few more chances. (I am about to hear his HH rally). Then, it will be time to realize, this is who he is and who he will be. And that will not be enough.

Again, Thank You for your excellent analysis.

65 posted on 12/30/2015 8:05:58 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“I’m not sure of his motives,”

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As someone about Trump’s age, I find it easy to believe his explanation as to why he’s running.

I’ve agonized over the America we are leaving for my own children and grandchildren to live in and raise their families in. Most Freepers here probably feel the same way.

America hardly resembles the one I grew up in. It’s but a shadow of its former self, with freedoms, successes, with respect from our friends, and fear of us by our enemies, all but non-existent.

Trump said he was running so that his family wouldn’t look at him, knowing he could have fixed it, but didn’t.

His own story of building the Trump Organization shows that he knows how to build great empires. Now he wants to make all of America great again.

I think we are but the lucky side beneficiaries.


66 posted on 12/30/2015 8:07:16 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.))
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To: grania
I'd like to join Commander Riker in applauding your most excellent post:


67 posted on 12/30/2015 8:07:31 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Wishful thinking and projection are always present. Often hard to separate from fact and reality.
68 posted on 12/30/2015 8:07:48 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Elsie
Remember the Party Unity My A$$ movement when Obama pulled a quick one and outplayed Hillary and a multitude of Democrats who were supporting Hillary joined the PUMA movement? Remember how they swore they would not support Obama? Remember how many on FR used that as an 'additional example' why Obama, that empty suit, would never neat the McCain/Palin combo?

Remember how all those PUMA folk still came out and voted for Obama ...

Again, if I am wrong all we did was over-prepare for what turned out to be a cake walk. However, if you are wrong it is a repeat of 2008. I think people are really underestimating Hillary, a species of viper even more venomous than whatever basket of horrors Bill and Obama slithered out from.

69 posted on 12/30/2015 8:14:53 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz
THAT gets a rare dual-approval from both the Captain and the Chief Medical Officer:


70 posted on 12/30/2015 8:15:04 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: DoodleDawg

Watching a few old interviews is not research.

You obviously haven’t read his books, read articles about his family history, read anything about what his military schoolmates have said about him, or researched anything at all about him with an open mind.

As far as his sacrifice goes; he has lost his Macy’s contract, gave up a very good income from The Apprentice, lost endorsements, and will have to hand over the business he loves to his children.

He will have to go from a very comfortable life of doing anything and going anywhere he wants to living in a fishbowl and being attacked on an hourly basis by the media and his foes.

Moving to the White House is a step up for everyone else. It will be a step down for Trump.


71 posted on 12/30/2015 8:27:18 AM PST by Amntn (The only special interest not being served by our government is the American people. Donald Trump)
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To: AustinBill

“Trump is a quintessential American: brash, self-confident, optimistic, and decisive. His appearance on the political scene is the natural product of decades of attempts by the elite to “tame” American culture into some sort of Euro-light effete mush. “

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Excellant


72 posted on 12/30/2015 8:29:22 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.))
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To: BlueStateRightist
Who here is confident Donald Trump will appoint true conservatives to the SCOTUS? Isn't that one of the most important roles of the POTUS?

Yes it is, and he will.

73 posted on 12/30/2015 8:32:44 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.))
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To: FerociousRabbit; Servant of the Cross; CatherineofAragon; Lakeshark; xzins; Colonel_Flagg; ...

PING to Rabbit’s post 62 - one of the best on FR in many a month.....


74 posted on 12/30/2015 8:34:39 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Balding_Eagle

Who here is confident Donald Trump will appoint true conservatives to the SCOTUS? Isn’t that one of the most important roles of the POTUS?

Yes it is, and he will.


No way he could do worse than Bush...Harriet Myers...remember THAT mess??


75 posted on 12/30/2015 8:34:56 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: FerociousRabbit

Trump is mad, we are mad, but that isn’t enough!


76 posted on 12/30/2015 8:40:52 AM PST by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Go to trump’s website and read his position papers.

I get tired of hearing “That’s all there is.” when the speakers seem to be indicating that his media attacks are the sum total of trump.

It’s like the media meme that attacking bill Clinton won’t work. They carefully misrepresent that the attack is on hillary for covering for bill.


77 posted on 12/30/2015 8:42:44 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Ditter

Trump is mad, we are mad, but that isn’t enough!


Exactly.


78 posted on 12/30/2015 8:43:23 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: servo1969; All
Voters chose obama because of the color- black.

Voters are choosing Trump because of the colors- red, white, and blue.

79 posted on 12/30/2015 8:43:57 AM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: FerociousRabbit; C. Edmund Wright; cripplecreek; CatherineofAragon
I understand the initial appeal of Trump. November, however, is a long way off if America only hears about his polls and a wall with daily Twitter blasts of "stupid." You want Trump to broaden his message and discuss first principles. I am afraid you will be disappointed. You have to go with the Trump you have.

Now it is just re-runs of an old sit-com.

The "money quote" ...

80 posted on 12/30/2015 8:53:24 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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