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Off-duty special agent points gun at a man during road rage incident in Virginia Beach
Pilotonline ^ | 30 december 2015 | Alissa Skelton

Posted on 12/31/2015 11:41:02 AM PST by csvset

VIRGINIA BEACH

An off-duty Homeland Security special agent pointed a gun at another man during a road rage incident in Virginia Beach, police say.

It happened around 10:30 a.m. Wednesday near the intersection of London Bridge Boulevard and Dam Neck Road. Witnesses called 911 to report a man pointing a gun at another man, said Officer Tonya Pierce, a spokeswoman for the Virginia Beach Police Department.

The drivers were traveling north on Dam Neck approaching London Bridge when one pulled in front of the other and stopped. The two exchanged words, and a threat may have been made, police said.

Witnesses said both men were standing outside of their vehicles when the off-duty agent pulled his weapon, Pierce said.

"We think someone cut someone else off," Pierce said. "I'm not sure who cut who off."

Police arrived and interviewed both parties involved. No injuries were reported, and no charges have been filed. Both men involved were allowed to leave the scene, Pierce said.

Neither driver wanted to pursue prosecution at this time, so police provided them with information on how to obtain a warrant, Pierce said.

The special agent works for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Homeland Security Investigations. The Virginia Beach Police Department and Homeland Security wouldn't identify him.

Carissa Frasca Cutrell, a spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, declined to say whether the agent in question acted improperly. She would not say whether her agency will conduct an internal investigation into the matter.

Alissa Skelton, 757-222-5155, alissa.skelton@pilotonline.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: authority; banglist; firearms; policestate; respect; rkba; roadrage; special
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What ? Be careful out there folks.
1 posted on 12/31/2015 11:41:02 AM PST by csvset
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To: csvset

immigrations wont comment on whether it was appropriate???

let me go out on a limb, it wasn’t.

also, someone has to press charges for someone who pulled a gun in front of others to be arrested?

i wonder what the behavioral science is behind road rage. i admit that i get mad sometimes to an illogical extent over nonsense, like being cut off.

maybe i’m letting out anger about something else :)

i’ll let you know when i become a shrink.


2 posted on 12/31/2015 11:49:08 AM PST by dp0622 (i)
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To: csvset

I have wanted to pull mine out at people on the highways, but never actually did it.
I have also imagined hitting the accelerator and smashing into some, never actually did that either.


3 posted on 12/31/2015 11:51:13 AM PST by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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To: csvset

Once had a guy cut me off at a stop sign. I put my hands up like, ‘really’.

As I drove on he then turned around and tried to cut me off, then got behind me and raced up to me so I sped up to my fathers house where my father and brother happened to be outside waiting for me. This guy, following me, saw them and then hit the gas and took off very fast.

They are out there.


4 posted on 12/31/2015 11:51:28 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: csvset

The special agent works for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations
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ICE, or Immigration and Customs Enforcement, isn’t allowed to do their job, which is deporting illegal aliens.

They split INS when they created The Department of Homeland Security, ICE for deporting illegal aliens, USCIS, Citizen and Immigration Services for processing immigrants.

They can’t/won’t distinguish between them.

The Department of Homeland Security has always sounded vaguely Germanic to me.

DHS = Gestapo

Disband it.


5 posted on 12/31/2015 11:52:47 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Blue Jays

Apparently the DHS guy was the only person professional enough in the room, that he knows of, to handle the Glock .40 firearm...

6 posted on 12/31/2015 11:53:48 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: dp0622

Maybe both parties were members of ‘protected minority’ groups. Maybe the off-duty agent was Shariff Muhammad, bodyguard for a Saudi Sheikh, who was running late for Call To Prayer. The ‘Bad Driver’ in question could have been a one-legged, transgendered, bisexual (and PROUD!) lawyer who moonlights as a Coyote.


7 posted on 12/31/2015 11:56:12 AM PST by lee martell
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To: csvset

I thought ICE agents were only allowed to carry diaper bags and “How To Get Welfare” pamphlets.


8 posted on 12/31/2015 11:56:20 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: csvset

An ex-Kennewick, Washington cop did the same thing only he had his kids in the car at that time and the person who he was pissed at was an elderly volunteer driver for Meals on Wheels.


9 posted on 12/31/2015 11:57:01 AM PST by shotgun
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To: Beowulf9
Gotta love these guys who will race past you only to stop for a red light five seconds before you.

I used to spend a fortune in fines, law office ticket mills, and deferred adjudication fees before I learned not to be that guy.

10 posted on 12/31/2015 11:58:30 AM PST by Company Man ("My favorite part about the Obama era is all the racial healing")
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To: Beowulf9

That is the type guy that needs to get out of his car and rush up to your car only to see a .45 through a partially opened window.
It will make him think twice about who tries to be a toughguy with next time.


11 posted on 12/31/2015 12:00:17 PM PST by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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To: csvset

He pulls that stuff in GA he’s likely to find himself in a Mexican standoff. Everybody carries.


12 posted on 12/31/2015 12:00:58 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: lee martell

what if you’re a lesbian pre op (still have male privates) transgender?

wouldn’t that mean you would still date women?

too funny.


13 posted on 12/31/2015 12:01:15 PM PST by dp0622 (i)
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To: lee martell

Could be both worked for the government. Could be the DHS agent became VERY afraid when he figured out he was about to be turned into a pile of mushed up meat because the driver he pulled over with was a SEAL stationed in Virgina Beach.


14 posted on 12/31/2015 12:02:53 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Company Man
Gotta love these guys who will race past you only to stop for a red light five seconds before you.

I'll admit, That's pretty much me, most of the time.

I live in a small town where people tend to drive 5 miles an hour under the speed limit. Makes me crazy!

15 posted on 12/31/2015 12:06:41 PM PST by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where God and guns have not been outlawed! Cruzin' with Cruz!)
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To: dp0622

Date women?

Your use of gender specific words is micro-aggressive to me. I have to go to my safe space and call my lifecoach for recommended therapy.


16 posted on 12/31/2015 12:07:34 PM PST by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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To: dp0622

Add that to “Things I never thought I’d be seriously thinking about” The bucket is already overflowing.


17 posted on 12/31/2015 12:08:50 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Carthego delenda est

Could also be that the agent was being threatened by the other guy and was acting in self defense in a measured manner. Not enough details to know.


18 posted on 12/31/2015 12:10:06 PM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: envisio

Same here but the red guy on my other shoulder keeps whispering to ram any car with obama or Bernie stickers on them.


19 posted on 12/31/2015 12:10:46 PM PST by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: envisio
I've often wondered, as a CCW, what would happen if I were to flash my .38 at a road-rager storming up to my car window.

Not knowing the guy's intentions or state of mind (drugs, etc.) I believe it's a legitimate thing to do.

However, with the current mindset out there, I think odds are I'd wind up with a terroristic threats charge, or worse.

20 posted on 12/31/2015 12:13:18 PM PST by daler
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