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To: Nachum

Mike Vanderboegh at Sipsey Street Irregulars has the correct take on this, IMHO.

Perfect timing for the regime. Federal provocateurs, sociopaths and idiots with a John Brown complex are writing checks that they expect the rest of us to cash in our blood.

I was first apprised of this a few minutes ago by folks on the ground out in Oregon. They report that Payne, Ritzheimer and every other “tiger-talking” fruit, nut and federal provocateur previously identified from the Bundy standoff were now in possession of the building and daring the Feds to do anything about it. My initial reaction was to observe that at least afterward we’ll know who the federal snitches are because they will be the only ones who survive the raid to take back the building. My understanding is that this premeditated action has been condemned by the Oregon Three Percenters and other groups but the fact of the matter is that these people are writing checks that they expect the rest of us to cash in our blood. And the Hammonds themselves are disavowing this action in the strongest terms.

For the regime, this could not come at a better time. The old Roman adage “cui bono” applies here. There is nothing on the talking heads channels as yet, but by Monday, when Obama meets with his Attorney General on the subject of citizen disarmament, you can bet the farm that this will play right into that narrative. Perfect timing. You’ve got to give the federal handlers of these pukes credit. This is precisely the sort of offensive action on the part of the “militia terrorists” that they needed.

A Threeper source on the ground relates:

“The stupid has gone so far that I don’t know if it can come back. These f-cking morons have no idea what they’ve done. The sheriff has retreated to a ‘staging area’. These guys are about to get obliterated. MSM just picked it up outside local area. It’s now regional (San Fran etc.)”

LATER: Another source says that the Feds are staging, bringing in various SRTs. This is just beginning.

I’ll have updates as I get them, but for now it looks like 2016 is going to start out with a huge propaganda victory for the regime.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/01/perfect-timing-for-regime-federal.html

My take: A federal provocateur is leading a band of lunatics, trying to nudge them into a situation where one of the loons will snipe a LEO or FLEA. Then the MSM will brand every patriot, RKBA advocate, threeper etc as a “militia murderer.” Please don’t fall for this transparent charade. Don’t be a fool or a patsy. Don’t be “Jimmy Shifflett” in this dangerous game.

The back channel chatter I am hearing indicates that this operation is intended to become Obama’s ‘Enemies Foreign And Domestic” moment. Instead of a contrived stadium massacre by a “militia nut” patsy, it is going to be a battle royale by “militia murderers” against the heroic LEOs and FLEAs. This is intended to result in dead LEOs and FLEAs, leading to draconian anti-RKBA executive orders by Obama. Please, folks, don’t be a fracking MORON. Don’t be JIMMY SHIFFLETT. Don’t be a TOOL for Obama and his gun grabbing plans.


39 posted on 01/03/2016 5:59:30 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks bro.


43 posted on 01/03/2016 6:06:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: Travis McGee

Only one point in your post that I disagree with: “ My initial reaction was to observe that at least afterward we’ll know who the federal snitches are because they will be the only ones who survive the raid to take back the building.”

The provocateurs may find out that they are more expendable than they thought.


57 posted on 01/03/2016 6:21:19 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Travis McGee

Didn’t Mike V. meet Ryan Payne at the Bundy Ranch standoff and warn about him? I seem to recall that Mike V. said at the time that Payne should not be allowed any where near the Threeper movement.

Or am I thinking of someone else?


75 posted on 01/03/2016 7:08:56 AM PST by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: Travis McGee

If your analysis is correct, it’s too late to reverse course. The situation is already unfolding and unless they just leave peacefully, the situation will be used against everyone.


77 posted on 01/03/2016 7:11:04 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Travis McGee

well stated Travis - plays right into 0bama’s hands. Timing of this a coincidence? I think not.


79 posted on 01/03/2016 7:13:42 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Travis McGee

What I suspected.


89 posted on 01/03/2016 7:41:41 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: Travis McGee

A sane voice of reason. Thank-you.


92 posted on 01/03/2016 7:51:19 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Travis McGee

Strange that you posted that, and as always, to me anyway, your perspective is always correct. About 10 minutes earlier, I got the idea that supposed the feds approached the Bundy boys and said, “We need you to do a favor for us. Do this and we will forget about what happened in the past and let bygones be bygones.” I am just watching and learning and commenting on something that is said once in a while.


121 posted on 01/03/2016 9:36:33 AM PST by sport
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To: Travis McGee

My first reaction yesterday on hearing of the standoff, was why now and of all people the Bundy boys who managed miraculously to live through the last one. and the Oath Keepers already acknowledging that the Hammond’s were not wanting a confrontation and had backed off their support. It really leaves only one scenario and you and Mike Vanderboegh have it right. The real question, is the Bundy family back in NV reachable and teachable before the massacre begins? If they have any desire to see their sons living they would have been rolling the vehicles toward OR the day before yesterday.


162 posted on 01/04/2016 2:26:38 AM PST by wita
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