No problem..that's why we have the money tree...
Posted on 01/04/2016 6:18:53 AM PST by artichokegrower
All Hail Big Br’O, your Affirmative Action President.
No problem..that's why we have the money tree...
Education cost and scarcity is the same as if government were managing the food supply.
Higher income could be more due to the IQ and ambition than the degree.
Charles Murray writes that an IQ of about 115 is needed to have a reasonable chance of graduating from college, and a considerably higher IQ for those in the STEM careers.
What a load of crap.
That was true when Nelson Mandela said it in 2003
Oh, OK, then.
A college graduate today will earn nearly $1 million more on average over her lifetime than a person who has only graduated from high school
Correlation is not causation - and the measuring stick is college graduates in the 1950s compared to HS graduates and dropouts in the 1950s. In the 1950s you had to be smart to go to college, and you had to work hard once you got there. Neither of these things are true in 2016.
French Literature (pre-Camus and Derrida) is one of the few reasons baccalaureate programs should exist.
That was true, once upon a time.
Double stupid!
Quite frankly, there isn't much difference in salaries between someone properly trained in an appropriate technical field and someone with a 4 year degree. And for people like me, you also end up in a job you actually enjoy, working with the type of people you like rather than stuck behind a desk, shoveling papers and fighting political wars in a large company.
I went to college for 2 years and dropped out, ran out of money. I mainly quit because I hated school though. Wasted 20 grand (that was 25 years ago too). I spent many days hammering through homework and tests in subjects I really liked, but would provide little for supporting a family. I was focused on math and physics mostly.
I trained myself in a technical field and make more today than most of my college educated friends. I work to stay current and keep my skills up to date and in demand.
Everyone has their own niche. But college isn't really the answer for most people. You train for jobs that don't exist or jobs where there is no demand. I have one friend who is 45 and just managed to pay off his student loans a few years ago, strapped almost all his life and held back by them. Meanwhile, my house is paid off, I buy my vehicles with cash and my kids go to private school... all on a high school diploma. I'm definitely not wealthy, but I'm quite happy that God showed me the right road and gave me the tools to make it on my own.
I will say one thing about college... Coming from a very poor background and living in a rural area, college was a social awakening for me. I didn't even know a black person until college and I got to meet and befriend people from other nations and cultures. It was very valuable for me, at least. I wouldn't pay 20 grand for it again, but that is really the only positive thing I walked away with.
I disagree. Colleges should be able to offer ANY course their students wish to enroll/pay.....WITHOUT the assistance of taxpayer $$ through govt theft.
Whole lot of ‘fixing’ (not just in higher education) if/when the taxpayer is released from their economic slavery conditions.
Translated this means that California State Government (Marxists, communists, socialists ALL) proposes to go after anyone with white skin that makes over 75 k a year and STEAL some more money out of their paycheck and when that doesn’t end up being enough they will use the states dwindling credit to borrow some money from some capitalist fool knowing they (the government) will never pay it back. All to buy more votes and create more socialists.
Make no mistake that this country is NOW 44% Marxist socialist communists!
The dreams of our forefathers (Constitution) are all but dead and then some wonder and worry and wring their hands over a few guys in Oregon taking a stand and fighting for the Constitution. Pitiful.
Why allow student debt to be discharged in bankruptcy? Many a newly minted 21-30 year old would have absolutely NO problem filing for bankruptcy to wipe out his/her college loans. Wouldn’t give it a 2nd thought. And who would pick up the cost of the loss that bankruptcy?
There are (limited) circumstances under which college debt might be discharged in bankruptcy, but lenders have to be held to repaying their debts, and the younger they are in learning that responsibility, the better. It’s a maturing life experience.
Mine is: "Underwater basket weaving."
A true, classical, liberal arts education is worth its weight in gold as preparation for living a good life. Those college programs are becoming scarce.
But most degrees are worthless in terms of future employment, or offer nothing that hard work can't replace.
Moreover, the college "experience" is often worse than nothing, since it habituates vices that may last a lifetime.
When everyone has a college education a college education is worthless. We are up to our armpits in Phd recipients who don’t know which way to turn a light bulb.
College graduates used to make that much more, but not anymore. College graduates often have high monthly payments. A $100,000 student loan can run $1,000 a month. Kind of takes away from that earnings benefit.
College graduates are often unemployed as their “degrees” are nothing but participation trophies and taught them nothing. This, too, takes away from that earnings benefit.
A college degree isn’t supposed to be a participation trophy. Making it one ruins its value.
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So many of your comments are spot on but liked your line ..
“The individual mandate applied to 50 employees small businesses, the class enemies of government”
We need more small businesses rather than kids with college degrees with nowhere to go once they have them
Education is the most powerful weapon you can use to change the world.
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Our government uses it as an indoctrination weapon.
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