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Trump Says He Supports Reauthorizing Patriot Act, NSA Metadata Collection
Truth in Media ^ | Dec 7, 2015 | Barry Donegan

Posted on 01/04/2016 10:54:20 AM PST by TBP

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To: conservative98

Nice try. This is from a month ago.
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A month is a long time for Trump. Is he saying anything different now?


21 posted on 01/04/2016 11:23:11 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: hotsteppa

No cult of personality around any of the other candidates. But there definitely is one around Trump.


22 posted on 01/04/2016 11:24:31 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: hotsteppa

BTW, I did a search. There is no other link but this thread. Sorry. Try again.


23 posted on 01/04/2016 11:25:50 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: JSDude1

It is because he knows when to pick and choose his battles. This is an old story from a month ago.


24 posted on 01/04/2016 11:25:55 AM PST by conservative98
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To: TBP

The blunt tool of NSA spying on every USA citizen is only necessary because the USA is defeated by political correctness and refuses to focus its efforts on radical muslims.


25 posted on 01/04/2016 11:26:22 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: TBP
Maybe he said it on Hewitt's show because he knows nobody was listening. (Except maybe the NSA.)

lol

26 posted on 01/04/2016 11:29:26 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: TBP

Agreed. I like that Trump has opened up dialog on several issues that Republicans are afraid to wade into but I will only vote for him if he gets the nod.


27 posted on 01/04/2016 11:29:54 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Jewbacca

The blunt tool of NSA spying on every USA citizen is only necessary...
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No, it is never necessary. We the People have not repealed the 4th Amendment which clearly states one of the many rights that We the People do not cede to the federal government.


28 posted on 01/04/2016 11:31:37 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Jewbacca

“The blunt tool of NSA spying on every USA citizen is only necessary because the USA is defeated by political correctness and refuses to focus its efforts on radical muslims.”

VERY well stated. It is because of the culture of PC, that to go after the few who want to do us harm, we all are subjected to the same scrutiny.


29 posted on 01/04/2016 11:31:47 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: conservative98

I don’t know what it means when it applies to his intentions, really. However I disagree with his political position on it. Has Mr. Trump changed his mind from last month, or does he still believe this..?


30 posted on 01/04/2016 11:33:04 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: Forgotten Amendments
You said...
“He doesn�€™t even listen to himself. To the cult, he can say no wrong.”

Aint that the truth!!

The only real difference between Trump and Hillary is Trump has a penis and Hillary(allegedly) has a vagina

31 posted on 01/04/2016 11:33:23 AM PST by LMAO (#BlackLivesMatterWhenItsForPoliticalPoints)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

The sick thing is the way the remnants of Rush and the other “conservative” hosts tiptoe around this dolt for fear of offending the horde. They all say the same thing, “I’m not endorsing anyone ...” then slobber all over what ever Trump spewed that day.

Trump makes Perot sound like William F. Buckley.


32 posted on 01/04/2016 11:33:38 AM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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To: skeeter

http://www.unitedliberty.org/articles/18423-ted-cruz-says-that-the-new-and-improved-usa-freedom-act-would-end-the-nsas-unconstitu


33 posted on 01/04/2016 11:36:11 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (.."THE FORCE AWAKENS"!!! TRUMP; TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP 100%....)
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To: TBP

I would bet more than I can afford to lose that Trump knows next to nothing about the Patriot Act, the various provisions of which have a helluva lot more direct impact on US citizens than on any terrorist. If he thinks that the Patriot Act provides greater security, he’s a fool.


34 posted on 01/04/2016 11:40:04 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: ManHunter

If he knows about it and supports it, or if he doesn’t know much about it but supports it for “security”, it doesn’t speak well for him either way.


35 posted on 01/04/2016 11:41:27 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: so_real

“fumble an issue “

It’s impossible to fumble a nonexistent ‘issue’ (the kind politicians love best).
There just isn’t any significant difference between the Patriot Act and the Freedom Act.
Having the metadata kept by the companies is slightly better structurally than having it kept by the NSA.
The issue hasn’t been significant for anyone because it’s just too fine a distinction.
Of course it’s fun to treat it as if it mattered a great deal, make broad extrapolations from thin air: politicians love that.

Heck, using a telephone was public speech- with NO privacy protection- as recently as 1967.
I imagine the courts will endow 4th Amendment coverage on to the internet one day as they did for telephones.


36 posted on 01/04/2016 11:51:59 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: TBP

I don’t like that at all.


37 posted on 01/04/2016 11:55:10 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: conservative98
Nice try. This is from a month ago.

Does the fact that this was from a month ago change the fact that this is Trump's position? Or are we not permitted to bring up his positions once they are deemed to be "old news" by his supporters? That sounds suspiciously like the tactic used by the Clintons to keep people from talking about the things they have said and done in the past...

38 posted on 01/04/2016 11:58:37 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: TBP
Newsweek points out that Donald Trump has held the same position since before the Paris terror attacks. He said this summer, "I support legislation which allows the NSA to hold the bulk metadata. For oversight, I propose that a court, which is available any time on any day, is created to issue individual rulings on when this metadata can be accessed."

This sounds pretty reasonable to someone who has actually been in the signals intelligence business. So I am thinking that Donald Trump has pretty good instincts about this.
39 posted on 01/04/2016 12:00:24 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: mrsmith

There just isn’t any significant difference between the Patriot Act and the Freedom Act.
Having the metadata kept by the companies is slightly better structurally than having it kept by the NSA.
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There are two significant differences. First, the federal government may no longer illegally collect information about it entire citizenry. Second, the Patriot Act was a giant leap into the world of big brother authoritarianism whereas the Freedom Act is a step back from Orwell’s 1984.

Corporations, primarily phone companies, collected the metadata previously, that has not changed. I prefer Rand Paul’s stance on the issue of privacy and the government’s strict obedience to the Constitution but a victory, even a small one, is a victory, nonetheless.


40 posted on 01/04/2016 12:04:26 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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