UNBELIEVABLE Update - Oregon "Bundy Militia" Standoff - The Federal Prosecutor...

CTH ^ | January 4, 2016 | by sundance

[novemberslady]

Multiple sources told The Oregonian/OregonLive that Kerin tried to break off that relationship. They said he grew concerned enough at Marshall's reaction that he reported it to his Justice Department superiors.

Marshall was reportedly driving by his home and sending multiple texts, including several she sent telling him she knew what he was doing at the time.

Is that right?
holy smokes!

[TigersEye]

it looks more and more like the federal gov't under obie has committed a grave injustice against these innocent ranchers.

The Federal gov. has been doing this kind of thing to hundreds of ranchers for several decades.

[combat_boots]

Well, the Bundys fit the DHS memo of 2010.

[MileHi]

What, exactly, is your rationale for having a judge ignore this law and sentence according to his whim?

I agree with the judge, they should have never been charged under that dubious statute. I only fault the judge for not throwing the case out, if he could have done so.

You seem to start from the perspective that the heavy hand of the FedGov is a desirable thing.

I start from the presumption these are good folks who did nothing wrong. The FedGov has been squeezing them for a long time.

Do you live a friggin' apartment?

[semimojo]

You speak as if this were still a Republic democracy

But that's exactly my point. The law was passed just the way the Constitution prescribes.

What about this case is inconsistent with a republican democracy?

Not liking a law doesn't make it illegitimate.

[combat_boots]

Hogan retired the day he handed down his decision. I read that there was cake in the courtroom.

Right out of John Grisham.

[mass55th]

"That's how we rolled in the Coos."

Kook-Coos.

[dadfly]

i believe it. not to mention farmers like roscoe filburn.

[Hugin]

Just saw the local sheriff on TV. He says the Hammonds have turned themselves in, asked the people from outside to go home.

[TigersEye]

If there is equality under the law Amanda will go after him won’t she?

[combat_boots]

One more thing and then I'll stop.

I have read that the 2006 back fire was started on a day upon which BLM started a number of fires, too. The winds picked it up and burned 1, count it, ONE, acre of ‘federal’ land. The fire saved the Hammond house AND WINTER FEED.

In the movies, the Hammonds would have been heroes for saving their crops and livelihood.

[semimojo]

You seem to start from the perspective that the heavy hand of the FedGov is a desirable thing.

Not exactly. I do prefer rule of law and representative democracy to anarchy, however.

[trisham]

You speak as if this were still a Republic democracy

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We are a republic.

[Sacajaweau]

Should they have been convicted under terrorism laws in the first place?

[GraceG]

[ How can this not be a form of double jeopardy?

My understanding of double jeopardy is that you can’t be tried twice for the same crime.

This is different, though is smack of being sentenced twice for the same crime.

Even though there were mandatory sentences, which I’m not sure I agree with, the judge is the one who erred here not the accused.

I’, no lawyer, but do have and understanding of some law.

Was is Clarence Darrow that said that the law is an ass?

This case seems to prove it. ]

This is like someone shoplifting, then getting arrested for it and serving time for it, then a few years Later the IRS charges you with evading taxes because you didn’t report the property you stole on your taxes.

Or at least it seems like it.

[MileHi]

You know this kind of stuff is going to get personal for us in CO, right? Even if you don’t have a big ranch.

[amorphous]

Armed US PATRIOTS In Standoff With Feds NOW/OREGON

[redfreedom]

No real surprise here, a leftist stalking moonbat appointed by obama.

[combat_boots]

The Hammonds also fit the categories of the DHS memo of 2010.

We assume people are following laws. DC is following WHICH laws exactly?

The normal rules no longer apply.

From “The Saint”:

00:25:20 Hey. It is not for me.

00:25:23 It is for mother Russia.

00:25:25 But you want mother Russia, too, Mr. Tretiak.

00:25:29 Three million in a bank account in Zurich. Agreed?

[Bratch]