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To: pookie18
From That:

While some constitutional issues are truly difficult, with framing-era sources either nonexistent or contradictory, here, the relevant materials clearly indicate that a “natural born Citizen” means a citizen from birth with no need to go through naturalization proceedings. The Supreme Court has long recognized that two particularly useful sources in understanding constitutional terms are British common law and enactments of the First Congress.

Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.

Ted Cruz's Mom:

Cruz's mother, Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware, lived most of her life in the United States, and gave birth to little Rafael Edward Cruz in her 30s (in 1970)

14 posted on 01/06/2016 9:23:14 AM PST by justlittleoleme (CRUZ OR LOSE)
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To: justlittleoleme

This matter of legislative construction isn’t really that complicated, despite what the resident `nebelwerfers’ would have us believe ...

“Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth *based on the citizenship of a parent.*”

“Just because you say it’s so don’t make it so.’
Angry conservative to “Hey, let’s just go with the flow” Patrick “Patches’ Kennedy.

Then below she contradicts what she says above:

“So the one remaining question is whether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. That’s an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.” In addition to those who are born in the United States **or born outside the country to parents who were both citizens** — or, interestingly, found in the United States without parents and no proof of birth elsewhere — citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.”
Citizenship. That’s right.

As much as we would like something to be something it is not, facts are stubborn things and laws aren’t flavors-of-the-month, despite what Obama and the Democrats say: there’s a difference between a “natural born citizen” and a “citizen” or the post civil war Congress would have repeated the directive of Continental Congress would have used the words “natural born citizen” in the 14th amendment to make newly freed slves eligible for both offices.

And maybe you’re not as fed up as the rest of us by being rooked by Uniparty. Finally, we’re paying the price now in the person of a “citizen’ who once claimed to have been born in Kenya and molded as a child into a muslim in an Indonesian Sunni madrassas.
Why is it that so many take so much on faith in other matters, like head-bobbing muslim school boys learning the suras, but second-guess what our founding fathers meant when they limited the only two national offices in the Constitution to natural born citizens?


17 posted on 01/06/2016 10:34:44 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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