[jimbug]

He may say he is not about to take our guns, but if he could figure out a way to do it, without starting a civil war, he would do it in a heartbeat.

That's close to the truth, in my opinion.

More likely, he is not opposed to starting a civil war, but is concerned how it would end, once the blood of patriots and tyrants alike have refreshed the tree of liberty.

Obama is a bully, and bullys are, when confronted, proven to be cowards. If we did have a civil war, his life and the lives of his families would get very difficult, to say the least.

[Mark17]

More likely, he is not opposed to starting a civil war, but is concerned how it would end, once the blood of patriots and tyrants alike have refreshed the tree of liberty.

I think the last thing we want is a civil war, but sometimes things are thrust upon people, and they have little choice. I hope it does not happen, but I wonder whose side, many in the military, and police, would end up on?