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Rand Paul: Ted Cruz is a natural-born Canadian
Hot Air ^ | 1/11/2016 | Allahpundit

Posted on 01/11/2016 6:06:32 PM PST by TBBT

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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
Take it up with the Supreme Court of the United States and our Founding Fathers.

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1st United States Congress, 21-26 Senators and 59-65 Representatives


Also notice that the Supreme Court has backed up that definition!


So the statement that "natural born means both parents " has been DENIED by the courts !
81 posted on 01/12/2016 9:46:42 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: mbrfl

There’s also the question of whether or not ‘citizen at birth’ and ‘natural born citizen’ were considered to necessarily be the same thing. It’s at least conceivable to me that the term ‘natural born citizen’ had a more restrictive meaning, and meant something more to the founders than merely someone who is a citizen at birth as defined by the current statute.
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Thank you for being a thinking person. That is EXACTLY why the restrictive wording was used. The Framers did not want the President-Command in Chief to be a person of divided loyalties.


82 posted on 01/12/2016 9:47:45 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

IF you googled the information and were incapable of putting two and two together and getting four, it is beyond the very Saints to inform you about anything.


83 posted on 01/12/2016 9:49:40 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
I googled the US Constitution and I discovered that you were wrong. Or a liar.

What do the very Saints have to do with your error?

Did the Saints make you lie?

Are they stopping you from admitting your error?

84 posted on 01/12/2016 9:52:14 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: TBBT

Rand Paul should do Ted Cruz a favor and file a lawsuit to clarify this. If not the democrats will when the time is optimal.


85 posted on 01/12/2016 9:52:35 AM PST by McGruff (Trumpnado Warning issued for Iowa and New Hampshire)
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To: John Valentine

Trump does not have dual citizenship. The USA does not care what the UK thinks about our naturalization process. Trump was born on soil to two US citizen parent thus he is a natural born citizen as per our constitution.


86 posted on 01/12/2016 9:55:34 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Mollypitcher1

At that time citizenship of the couple (and the child) was determined by the husband. A women gained the citizenship of her husband. If the husband was a US citizen then so was his wife and so was his child. So the both thing is kind of unnecessary. Unless of course the woman was not married, not sure what happens to the child if the father does not claim the baby.


87 posted on 01/12/2016 10:01:45 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Mollypitcher1
I would not use ice cream, ice cream these days is really ice milk. That is one of my pet peeves.
88 posted on 01/12/2016 10:04:10 AM PST by jpsb
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To: mbrfl
"The 1790 law includes a definition of 'natural born citizen' whereas the 1795 law does not."

The 1790 law does not define NBC, all it says is that children of citizens born abroad shall be considered as natural born citizen. That is not a definition. Also note that at the time citizenship of the couple (and the child) was determined by the father. I women gained the citizenship of her husband. If the husband was a US citizen then so was his wife and so was his child.

89 posted on 01/12/2016 10:09:57 AM PST by jpsb
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To: mbrfl
There's also the question of whether or not 'citizen at birth' and 'natural born citizen' were considered to necessarily be the same thing.

You can not be a natural born citizen of more then one country. Cruz was a citizen at birth of Cuba, since he father was a Cuban citizen when Ted was born. USA since his mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth. Canada since he was born in Canada. Now please explain to me how someone who was a citizen at birth to 3 countries is a natural born citizen of the USA. Remember a natural born citizen requires no laws to make them a citizen, they are by nature a citizen of one and only one nation.

90 posted on 01/12/2016 10:14:49 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb
Trump does not have dual citizenship. The USA does not care what the UK thinks about our naturalization process. Trump was born on soil to two US citizen parent thus he is a natural born citizen as per our constitution.

It is amazing to me how obstinately dense people can be on the subject of dual citizenship.

So once again I will say it: It makes no difference that the USA does not care about what the UK thinks about our naturalization process. It's THEIR decision who they consider a citizen. Always. That's what dual citizenship is, for crying out loud! Don't you get it?

And yes, Trump was born on soil to two US citizen parent thus he is a natural born citizen just as I have said 20 times at least. And by the way this "born on soil to two US citizen parents is NOT "per our constitution". The Constitution establishes no such test.

91 posted on 01/12/2016 10:15:10 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: jpsb

How about Pizza?


92 posted on 01/12/2016 10:23:17 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: mbrfl

Its confusing because in that Era the citizenship of a woman was a murky area. She often was just considered to take on the citizenship of her husband. However, now that the 14th Amendmnent and the 19th Amendment to the constitution have been ratified it is clear that women are citizens in their own right. So, I don’t think there should be any problems on that account.


93 posted on 01/12/2016 12:40:24 PM PST by dschapin
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To: Mollypitcher1

What is funny is that no one on this thread has even mentioned the Constitution and the very strong possibility that CRUZ IS NOT ELIGIBLE. jJust like children they run around pointing fingers everywhere sooner than admit that CRUZ was a CANADIAN CITIZEN when he was elected to the US SENATE.
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Cruz is not a natural born American citizen. People ile Levine are full of it by defending Cruz. Levine & Rush won’t even take a look at the reality that Cruz is not eligible.


94 posted on 01/12/2016 2:50:26 PM PST by calisurfer
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To: dschapin

I see your point.


95 posted on 01/12/2016 3:25:54 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: Yosemitest

Interesting, thanks, I need to take some time to study it.


96 posted on 01/13/2016 5:16:53 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: TBBT

Applying US anchor baby rules, Cruz is a natural-born Canadian. He has since dropped that citizenship, but until 2014 run was a natural-born Canadian if one were to apply US rules.
Anwar al Awlaki’s kids can run for the presidency in the USA.


97 posted on 01/13/2016 5:22:34 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TBBT
Rand Paul: Ted Cruz is a natural-born Canadian

And a natural-born U.S. citizen as well. What's his point?

98 posted on 01/13/2016 5:23:50 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: TBBT
The irritating irony of all this is that none of Cruz's detractors actually have the balls to file suit to challenge him, knowing that if they win the backlash on the right to their own candidacy would be ferocious and if they lose they'd forfeit this cheap line of attack on Cruz.

None of Cruz's detractors has the standing to sue either.

99 posted on 01/13/2016 5:26:10 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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