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Live Thread: 2016 State of the Union Address (9 p.m. EST 1/12/16) Followed by GOP at 10 p.m.
C-SPAN ^ | Tuesday, January 12, 2016

Posted on 01/12/2016 5:08:45 PM PST by kristinn

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To: entropy12

Frankly, given the audience, time and place for her to speak as she did I thought she did surprisingly well. It wasn’t the time to make waves so she did pull it off quite well....I didn’t expect that.


1,441 posted on 01/12/2016 9:33:52 PM PST by caww
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To: MinuteGal

What did Nikki say to refute what 0blama is and has been doing to this country?

Nikki offered nothing but more GOPe pablum and platitudes. She is the UniParty/GOPe....and they wonder why we’re up in arms over the entire DC/political cesspool.

Here’s the full text of her speech....

Full text: Gov. Nikki Haley’s GOP response to the State of the Union

Full text, as prepared for delivery, of South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley’s Republican response to President Obama’s Jan. 12, 2016, State of the Union Address.

“Good evening.

“I’m Nikki Haley, Governor of the great state of South Carolina.

“I’m speaking tonight from Columbia, our state’s capital city. Much like America as a whole, ours is a state with a rich and complicated history, one that proves the idea that each day can be better than the last.

“In just a minute, I’m going to talk about a vision of a brighter American future. But first I want to say a few words about President Obama, who just gave his final State of the Union address.

“Barack Obama’s election as president seven years ago broke historic barriers and inspired millions of Americans. As he did when he first ran for office, tonight President Obama spoke eloquently about grand things. He is at his best when he does that.

“Unfortunately, the President’s record has often fallen far short of his soaring words.

“As he enters his final year in office, many Americans are still feeling the squeeze of an economy too weak to raise income levels. We’re feeling a crushing national debt, a health care plan that has made insurance less affordable and doctors less available, and chaotic unrest in many of our cities.

“Even worse, we are facing the most dangerous terrorist threat our nation has seen since September 11th, and this president appears either unwilling or unable to deal with it.

“Soon, the Obama presidency will end, and America will have the chance to turn in a new direction. That direction is what I want to talk about tonight.

“At the outset, I’ll say this: you’ve paid attention to what has been happening in Washington, and you’re not naive.

“Neither am I. I see what you see. And many of your frustrations are my frustrations.

“A frustration with a government that has grown day after day, year after year, yet doesn’t serve us any better. A frustration with the same, endless conversations we hear over and over again. A frustration with promises made and never kept.

“We need to be honest with each other, and with ourselves: while Democrats in Washington bear much responsibility for the problems facing America today, they do not bear it alone. There is more than enough blame to go around.

“We as Republicans need to own that truth. We need to recognize our contributions to the erosion of the public trust in America’s leadership. We need to accept that we’ve played a role in how and why our government is broken.

“And then we need to fix it.

“The foundation that has made America that last, best hope on earth hasn’t gone anywhere. It still exists. It is up to us to return to it.

“For me, that starts right where it always has: I am the proud daughter of Indian immigrants who reminded my brothers, my sister and me every day how blessed we were to live in this country.

“Growing up in the rural south, my family didn’t look like our neighbors, and we didn’t have much. There were times that were tough, but we had each other, and we had the opportunity to do anything, to be anything, as long as we were willing to work for it.

“My story is really not much different from millions of other Americans. Immigrants have been coming to our shores for generations to live the dream that is America. They wanted better for their children than for themselves. That remains the dream of all of us, and in this country we have seen time and again that that dream is achievable.

“Today, we live in a time of threats like few others in recent memory. During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices. We must resist that temptation.

“No one who is willing to work hard, abide by our laws, and love our traditions should ever feel unwelcome in this country.

“At the same time, that does not mean we just flat out open our borders. We can’t do that. We cannot continue to allow immigrants to come here illegally. And in this age of terrorism, we must not let in refugees whose intentions cannot be determined.

“We must fix our broken immigration system. That means stopping illegal immigration. And it means welcoming properly vetted legal immigrants, regardless of their race or religion. Just like we have for centuries.

“I have no doubt that if we act with proper focus, we can protect our borders, our sovereignty and our citizens, all while remaining true to America’s noblest legacies.

“This past summer, South Carolina was dealt a tragic blow. On an otherwise ordinary Wednesday evening in June, at the historic Mother Emanuel church in Charleston, twelve faithful men and women, young and old, went to Bible study.

“That night, someone new joined them. He didn’t look like them, didn’t act like them, didn’t sound like them. They didn’t throw him out. They didn’t call the police. Instead, they pulled up a chair and prayed with him. For an hour.

“We lost nine incredible souls that night.

“What happened after the tragedy is worth pausing to think about.

“Our state was struck with shock, pain, and fear. But our people would not allow hate to win. We didn’t have violence, we had vigils. We didn’t have riots, we had hugs.

“We didn’t turn against each other’s race or religion. We turned toward God, and to the values that have long made our country the freest and greatest in the world.

“We removed a symbol that was being used to divide us, and we found a strength that united us against a domestic terrorist and the hate that filled him.

“There’s an important lesson in this. In many parts of society today, whether in popular culture, academia, the media, or politics, there’s a tendency to falsely equate noise with results.

“Some people think that you have to be the loudest voice in the room to make a difference. That is just not true. Often, the best thing we can do is turn down the volume. When the sound is quieter, you can actually hear what someone else is saying. And that can make a world of difference.

“Of course that doesn’t mean we won’t have strong disagreements. We will. And as we usher in this new era, Republicans will stand up for our beliefs.

“If we held the White House, taxes would be lower for working families, and we’d put the brakes on runaway spending and debt.

“We would encourage American innovation and success instead of demonizing them, so our economy would truly soar and good jobs would be available across our country.

“We would reform education so it worked best for students, parents, and teachers, not Washington bureaucrats and union bosses.

“We would end a disastrous health care program, and replace it with reforms that lowered costs and actually let you keep your doctor.

“We would respect differences in modern families, but we would also insist on respect for religious liberty as a cornerstone of our democracy.

“We would recognize the importance of the separation of powers and honor the Constitution in its entirety. And yes, that includes the Second and Tenth Amendments.

“We would make international agreements that were celebrated in Israel and protested in Iran, not the other way around.

“And rather than just thanking our brave men and women in uniform, we would actually strengthen our military, so both our friends and our enemies would know that America seeks peace, but when we fight wars we win them.

“We have big decisions to make. Our country is being tested.

“But we’ve been tested in the past, and our people have always risen to the challenge. We have all the guidance we need to be safe and successful.

“Our forefathers paved the way for us.

“Let’s take their values, and their strengths, and rededicate ourselves to doing whatever it takes to keep America the greatest country in the history of man. And woman.

“Thank you, good night, and God bless.”


1,442 posted on 01/12/2016 9:34:02 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: caww

I did not watch except the tail end of it. But I believe was minutegal posted after watching the speech. Somebody better make waves if this country wants to stop deteriorating.


1,443 posted on 01/12/2016 9:40:35 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump! Born in USA of 2 US Citizen Parents!! And not in pockets of ANY rich donors!!!!)
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To: advertising guy
Fox news says she is awesome,up an comer,VP material Bullshit

But that is the point of having her give the rebuttal....GOPe picking your VP. Now you know at least.

1,444 posted on 01/12/2016 9:43:29 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Daffynition

LOL. Seems like the good ol’ days, eh?


1,445 posted on 01/12/2016 10:14:21 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: MinuteGal

” isn’t there ANYONE with a little feistiness, a little passion, some subtle but cutting humor and the ability to know how to use the stiletto when necessary?”

Sarah Palin


1,446 posted on 01/12/2016 10:20:16 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: stars & stripes forever; All

I saw earlier a report that they would probably be returned tomorrow. It seems pretty clear that it was a mechanical failure, not any attempt to invade Iranian waters.


1,447 posted on 01/12/2016 10:32:12 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: KosmicKitty

Ping (Reagan SOTU speech 1989)


1,448 posted on 01/12/2016 10:35:16 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Mr Apple

Wasserman Schultz said she asked her colleagues to bring Muslims with them and 25 did so. I cannot believe the American people will tolerate this promotion of Islam.


1,449 posted on 01/12/2016 10:35:25 PM PST by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: Mr Apple

Someone should have invited Trump, he could have yelled “YOUR FIRED!”


1,450 posted on 01/12/2016 10:50:35 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Gator113

Yep...I get more enlightened here every day now. :)


1,451 posted on 01/12/2016 10:51:19 PM PST by Mr Apple (TRUMP 2016 - NO TO ALL ISLAMIC MIGRANT MUSLIM RAPEFUGEES -KEEP 'EM OUT)
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To: Windflier

Bump!


1,452 posted on 01/12/2016 10:54:39 PM PST by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: Williams; MarvinStinson
Wasserman Schultz said she asked her colleagues to bring Muslims with them and 25 did so. I cannot believe the American people will tolerate this promotion of Islam.

25! oh jeez, these delusional demoRats! And we have Huma Abedin and Jarrett to boot! I think now - that Nikki Haley should have been sitting along side them.

1,453 posted on 01/12/2016 10:58:10 PM PST by Mr Apple (TRUMP 2016 - NO TO ALL ISLAMIC MIGRANT MUSLIM RAPEFUGEES -KEEP 'EM OUT)
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To: warsaw44

Haley gets a pass from you for impugning native South Carolinans as hatemongers but you get all upset if she simply gets characterized with the religion of her ancestors. So group labeling is fine for you if Haley does it, but it’s not okay when it’s done to her. I get it.

BTW, does ‘Hindu’ bother you so much because that’s one of the groups that you hate? Or is that sort of smear only fun for you when you do it?


1,454 posted on 01/12/2016 11:06:57 PM PST by Pelham (Muslim immigration...the enemy is inside the wire.)
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To: Pelham

Now linked at Drudge:

“Looking back, the numbers aren’t pretty. From 2009 through 2015, Grabien (grabien.com) counts 140 promises that remain unfulfilled.

We should note that many of these promises are duplicated from one year to another. For example, almost every year he has pledged to pass comprehensive immigration reform, overhaul corporate taxes, reduce regulations, and close Guantanamo Bay.
We should note that many of these promises are duplicated from one year to another. For example, almost every year he has pledged to pass comprehensive immigration reform, overhaul corporate taxes, reduce regulations, and close Guantanamo Bay.
Don x t have time to read all 140? Here are some of the most notable:
x Curing cancer (promised 2009, 2010, 2015)
x Freezing government spending for three years (2010) and five years (2011)
x Colonizing outer space (2015)
x Going “line by line” through the budget, eliminating needless programs (2009, 2010)
x Inventing “material thinner than paper but stronger than steel” (2014)
x Passing health reform that will let Americans keep their insurance (2010)
x Converting sunlight into liquid fuel (2015)
x Passing comprehensive immigration reform (2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)
x Closing Gitmo (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015)
x Ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (2014)
x Passing a law that will prevent mass shootings (2014)
x Keeping earlier promises he x s already made (2013)

The full list is below. Montage above. Did we miss anything? Let us know in the comments.
2009
1. The stimulus bill will create 3.5 million jobs over the next few years, 90 percent of which will be in the private sector.
2. Create program that will enable Americans facing foreclosure to lower their mortgage payments and save their homes.
3. Double the supply of renewable energy within the next three years.
4. The “largest ever” federal spending program on science will yield breakthroughs in energy, medicine, science, and technology.
5. Lay down 1,000s of miles of power lines to connect Americans x homes to these new sources of energy.
6. Reduce Americans x energy bills by “billions of dollars.”
7. Cure cancer “in our time.”
8. Use stimulus funds to spend on preventive health care, which will get federal health spending “under control.”
9. Use the savings that result from the stimulus x reform of health-care to reduce the deficit.
10. Cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term in office.
11. Go “line by line” through the federal budget to eliminate wasteful and ineffective programs – saving $2 trillion over the next 10 years.
12. Never raise taxes “a single dime” on any family earning less than $250,000.
13. Stop the growing cost of Medicare and Social Security.
14. Make Social Security sustainable.
15. Create tax-free savings accounts for all Americans.
16. Close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay.

2010
17. Use stimulus funds to build a high-speed railway in Florida.
18. Research funds from the previous year x s stimulus will cure cancer, lead to “the cheapest solar cells.”
19. Building a new generation of nuclear energy plants.
20. Passing a climate-change law that will make clean energy profitable
21. Passing health-reform that lets Americans keep their doctors and their plans.
22. The health-reform law will reduce costs for “millions” of families and businesses
23. The health-reform law will bring down the deficit $1 trillion over the next 20 years.
24. Starting in 2011, government spending “will be frozen for three years.”
25. Cut programs we don x t need to maintain a balanced budget.
26. Veto spending bills that don x t adhere to balanced budgeting.
27. Go through budget “line by line” to eliminate programs that we can x t afford and don x t work.
28. Create a bipartisan fiscal commission; the recommendations of which he x ll enact.
29. Restore the pay-as-you-go budgeting rules.
30. Create a website that publishes every lawmakers x earmark requests.
31. Never give up “trying to change the tone of our politics.”
32. Pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill.
33. Secure America x s borders.
34. Enforce existing immigration laws
35. Create pathway to citizenship

2011
36. More nuclear power, more natural gas, more wind and solar.
37. Pass comprehensive immigration reform.
38. Secure America x s borders.
39. Enforce existing immigration laws.
40. Create pathway to citizenship.
41. Reduce unemployment by increasing the number of people working on infrastructure projects – ensuring these projects are “fully paid for.”
42. Recruit private sector financing to assist these infrastructure projects.
43. Projects will be prioritized by importance, not by politics.
44. Give 85 percent of Americans access to high-speed rail within 25 years.
45. Within the next three years, enable 98 percent of Americans to receive high-speed wireless Internet.
46. Lower the corporate tax rate and eliminate loopholes.
47. Reduce business regulations restraining growth and investment.
48. Starting this year, freeze domestic spending for the next five years.
49. ObamaCare will slow rising costs of health-insurance premiums.
50. Enact medical malpractice tort reform.
51. Consolidate various federal departments to streamline federal bureaucracy and ensure it x s “more competent and more efficient.”
52. Create website that lists all federal spending.
53. Veto every bill that contains earmarks.

2012
54. Reduce corporate income taxes.
55. Consolidate federal jobs-training programs – creating a single website that makes all information about these programs available in one place.
56. Convert federal unemployment insurance into a system that focuses on finding the unemployed jobs.
57. Enact comprehensive immigration reform.
58. Force all high schools to require students to stay in school until they graduate or turn 18.
59. Open more than 75 percent of offshore U.S. territory to drilling.
60. Go “all out” on every type of energy.
61. Take “every possible action” to expand natural gas production.
62. Ordering “every federal agency to eliminate rules that don x t make sense.”
63. Create “financial crimes unit” to crack down on white-collar crime.
64. Work with Congress to procure power to consolidate federal bureaucracy.
65. “End the notion that political parties must be engaged in a perpetual campaign of mutual destruction.”

2013
66. Reform Medicare and Medicaid to save as much as was proposed by the Simpson-Bowles Commission.
67. “Reduce taxpayer subsidies to prescription drug companies.”
68. Raise taxes on the wealthiest seniors.
69. Bring down health-care costs by changing the way the federal government pays for Medicare.
70. Eliminate loopholes and deductions for the “well off.”
71. Enact comprehensive tax reform that brings down the deficit and encourages job growth.
72. Cut “red tape and speed up new oil and gas permits.”
73. Create an “energy security trust.”
74. Create a “fix it first” program that will direct the unemployed to the highest priority programs.
75. Make “high quality” preschool available to every child in America.
76. Require that aid to colleges be distributed according to the value they impart upon students.
77. Pass comprehensive immigration reform.
78. Raise the minimum wage to $9/hour.
79. Create a tax incentive for companies to hire the long-term unemployed.
80. Create a program to put people back to work by rebuilding vacant homes in rundown neighborhoods.
81. Enact new tax credits for businesses that hire and invest.
82. Eliminate the marriage penalty for low-income couples.
83. Encourage fatherhood through tax policy adjustments.
84. By the end of 2014, end the war in Afghanistan.
85. Never make promises the government can x t actually keep.
86. Keep the promises already made.

2014
87. Lower corporate income taxes, close loopholes.
88. Use the money saved from corporate tax reform to finance new infrastructure spending.
89. Slash bureaucracy through executive orders.
90. Create an additional six “high tech manufacturing hubs” in 2014.
91. “Do more” to help entrepreneurs and small business owners.
92. Use government research funds to create entirely new industries – like vaccines that adapt to evolving bacteria, and inventing material thinner than paper but stronger than steel.
93. Pass a patent reform bill.
94. Use executive orders to cut red tape to enable factories to be built that are powered by natural gas.
95. Reform taxes so that fossil fuel companies are taxed more and “fuels of the future” are taxed less.
96. Enact new fuel-efficiency standards for trucks.
97. Pass comprehensive immigration reform.
98. Consolidate federal jobs training programs, helping match people with skills to jobs they can fill.
99. Reform unemployment insurance to encourage Americans to return to the workforce faster.
100. Assemble a coalition to help more kids access pre-K education.
101. Pass the “Equal Pay Act” for women.
102. Raise the minimum wage to $10.10
103. Expand the Earned Income Tax Credit
104. Reform the tax code to help lower-class Americans save
105. Give every American access to “an automatic IRA on the job.”
106. Ensure Americans never have to wait more than a half hour to vote.
107. Pass legislation that will prevent mass shooting tragedies.
108. End the Afghan war by the end of 2014.
109. Close Guantanamo Bay Prison in 2014.
110. End the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
111. Ensure the Iran will stop installing advanced centrifuges.
112. Be the “first” to call for more sanctions if Iran doesn x t abandon nuclear program.
113. Reform Veterans Affairs so that vets no longer have to deal with backlogs and instead receive the health care that they need.

2015
114. Cutting taxes for working families
115. Make child-care affordable through $3,000 tax credits per child, per year.
116. Work with states to pass paid-leave laws.
117. Pass “Equal Pay Act.”
118. Make two years of community college “as free and universal” as high school.
119. Make sure students can afford student loan payments.
120. Pass a bipartisan infrastructure plan.
121. Cure cancer.
122. Cure diabetes.
123. Give all Americans access to personalized health recommendations.
124. Put high-speed Internet in every classroom.
125. Put high-speed Internet in every community.
126. Build the fastest networks on Earth.
127. Convert sunlight into liquid fuel.
128. Create “revolutionary prosthetics so that a disabled veteran can play catch with his kid again.”
129. Colonize outer space.
130. Close loopholes that reward companies for creating jobs abroad and reward them for creating jobs in America.
131. Using savings from closed loopholes to rebuild infrastructure.
132. Lower repatriation tax
133. Simplify tax code so small business owners pay based on “what x s on her bank statement, instead of the number of accountants she can afford.”
134. Close loophole that lets people avoid paying taxes on “accumulated wealth”.
135. Use money from closed loopholes to send kids to college, pay for health care.
136. Destroy ISIS
137. Prevent foreign nations, hackers from stealing data from accessing our networks and stealing trade secrets and invading our privacy
138. Close Gitmo
139. Enact criminal justice reform
140. Seek out Republican ideas to make America strong

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=45618


1,455 posted on 01/13/2016 12:27:35 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Pelham

And more and more of them are being flown, than ever, some in places that I would have *never* imagined them popping up.

Brilliant move.

:)


1,456 posted on 01/13/2016 12:28:47 AM PST by Salamander (I made friends with a lot of people in the danger zone...)
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1,457 posted on 01/13/2016 12:32:55 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host x
by the Divine Power of God x
cast into hell, Satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.


1,458 posted on 01/13/2016 12:35:43 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: All

Glad I did not bother to watch.


1,459 posted on 01/13/2016 3:43:46 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: combat_boots

I think you’re trying to say the guy lies


1,460 posted on 01/13/2016 4:38:22 AM PST by rodguy911 (Sarah Palin our secret weapon --Home of the free because of the brave.)
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