Posted on 01/21/2016 5:45:51 PM PST by cotton1706
Indeed.
As Hamilton explained in Federalist #85, once 3/4 of the states apply, congress is duty bound to call a convention. Applications need not be identical nor address similar topics.
Furthermore, in Federalist #43, James Madison implied that state conventions to amend errors, to fine tune the Constitution were not to be rare occurrences.
"That useful alterations will be suggested by experience could not but be foreseen. It was requisite, therefore, that a mode for introducing them should be provided. (Article V) . . . seems to be stamped with every mark of propriety. It guards equally against that extreme facility, which would render the Constitution too mutable, and that extreme difficulty, which might perpetuate its discovered faults. It, moreover, equally enables the general and the State governments to originate the amendment of errors, . . ."
In what would probably be a surprise to our Framing generation, this second method of member states gathering in convention has never been used. The states have submitted hundreds of applications without receiving a congressional call to convention in return.
Recall that what passed for government under the Articles of Confederation fell to pieces in large part due to their un-amendability. We are pretty much at the same point; every day we watch the remnants of our republic fall down before our eyes.
While the Uniparty holds the people on a short leash to every clause and comma in the Constitution and much more that isn't even in the Constitution, THEY get to ignore the societal compact that used to be our Constitution. This is a fundamental contradiction that if left unsolved will end in a police state.
So don't worry, Congress will never call a convention. It simply isn't in their interest.
OTOH, it is by the Laws of Nature and Nature's God and not from Article V that We The People have every duty to exert our sovereign authority to restore free government.
Simply put, the states can and should convene as soon as possible.
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Indeed.
The “single issue” restriction is an artificial contrivance.
If an Article V convention result in a socialist/communist state then that is where the country is now and we need to find out. If that be the case then there is nothing to lose.
The only way the 16th and 17th amendments are going to be repealed is thru Art V. Repealing those two amendments would restore the republic, which is worth the risk. I do not think there is a risk.
Thank you. The CoS was seen as a legitimate tool to keep government in check. The founding fathers knew that the government would become too powerful and too obtrusive and provided a way to bypass Congress.
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The Convention of States rhetoric is overly simplistic since they know that most supporters of a constitutional convention rely on the words of admired conservative leaders topped off with little time for doing their own independent research. This is unfortunate since they are being deceived.
Like the first convention in 1787 any future convention could exceed the authority of its commission.The below information shows this occurred in 1787.
A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation: U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates, 1774 - 1875. Farrand’s Records, Volume 3 Pages 13&14
Page 13
I. Resolution of Congress.
1787, February 21.
Whereas there is provision in the Articles of Confederation & perpetual Union for making alterations therein by the Assent of Congress of the United States and of the legislatures of the several States. [continued on next page below.]
http://tinyurl.com/Sole-and-express-purpose-A
Page 14
Resolved that in the opinion of Congress it is expedient that on the second Monday in May next a Convention of delegates who shall have been appointed by the several states be held at Philadelphia for the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation.
http://tinyurl.com/Sole-and-express-purpose
They obviously exceeded their commission since they gave us a whole new constitution.
In the Articles of Confederation Article XIII, there is no provision for item specific, or general subject matter amendments, or for delegate restrictive rules. The States, Congress or any outside influences never attempted to impose any restrictions on the convention. The same is true for Article V contrary to what some advocates for a second constitutional convention say.
The new Constitution gave us a whole different mode of ratification from,”confirmed by the legislatures of every State,” to only 3/4’s of the States needed to ratify any proposed convention amendments.
Articles of Confederation Article XIII ...nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a Congress of the United States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.
http://tinyurl.com/AoC-Art-XIII
Should a second convention be convened, it could give us the proposed Constitution for the NewStates of America where the States are replaced by federal regions and through Article XI any proposed amendments come by way of a judicial council and need the approval of a dictatorial president.
http://tinyurl.com/NewStates-Const
As seen below, the 1787 Convention made it own rules and Article V by its lack of direction like the Articles of Confederation, Article XIII leaves it up to the convened convention delegates to make convention rules and not as some Article V advocates profess.
A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation: U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates, 1774 - 1875. Farrand’s Records, Volume 1. page 14 McHenry. Philadelphia 14 May 1787. Convention. Second para.
The convention appoint a committee to prepare and report rules for conducting business which were reported, debated, and in general agreed to on the 28th.
http://tinyurl.com/Convention-makes-its-rules
A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation: U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates, 1774 - 1875. Farrand’s Records, Volume 1. page 15. Tuesday, May 29, 1787. Journal. paras. 5-9.
rules.
That no member be absent from the House so as to interrupt the representation of the State with out leave.
That Committees do not sit whilst the House shall be, or ought to be, sitting.
That no copy be taken of any entry on the journal during the sitting of the House without the leave of the House.
That members only be permitted to inspect the journal.
That nothing spoken in the House be printed, or otherwise published, or communicated without leave.
http://tinyurl.com/Convention-makes-it-rules-2
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