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To: faithhopecharity

In the Koran or any of the Hadith writings based on the Koran, there are no equivalents of either the “Golden Rule” (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you) or any reference to the Ten Commandments.

Whether some scholars wish to admit it or not, almost all modern law codes in Western countries that claim a Christian heritage are based on these concepts.

Shari’ah Law is based on getting revenge on those who have disrespected Mohammed Ali, the “prophet” of Islam, and is totally incompatible with existing law codes in most non-Islamic countries.


14 posted on 01/24/2016 1:24:25 PM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: alloysteel

Actually, if you read the entire Koran there are several verses which bear some similarity to the Golden Rule.
However, they ‘don’t count much”... because... they are in earlier parts of the Koran (earlier in time, don’t go by chapter numbers or order because the Koran chapters or “suras” are NOT in chronological order).

Sura 9 contains the very last words of Mohammed (in verses 1 thru 29, and the rest of Sura 9 is also quite late albeit not his very last words).

A key Islamic rule is that verses from later in Mo’s life take precedence over verses attributed to his earlier years. In case of contradiction, the later-in=Mo’s-life verses rule.

Here are some Mo’s last verses from Sura 9, attributed to him on his deathbed:

9:1 A declaration of immunity from God and His apostle to the idolaters with whom you have made agreements:

9:2 For four months you shall go unmolested in the land. But know that you shall not escape God’s judgement, and that God will humble the unbelievers.

9:3 A proclamation to the people from God and His apostle on the day of the greater pilgrimage:

God and His apostle are under no obligation to the idolaters. If you repent, it shall be well with you; but if you give no heed, know that you shall not be immune from God’s judgement.

Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers,

9:4 except to those idolaters who have honoured their treaties with you in every detail and aided none against you. With these keep faith, until their treaties have run their term. God loves the righteous.

9:5 When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.

9:6 If an idolater seeks asylum with you, give him protection so that he may hear the Word of God, and then convey him to safety. For the idolaters are ignorant men.

9:7 God and His apostle repose no trust in idolaters, save those with whom you have made treaties at the Sacred Mosque. So long as they keep faith with you, keep faith with them. God loves the righteous.

9:8 How can you trust them? If they prevail against you they will respect neither agreements nor ties of kindred. They flatter you with their tongues, but their hearts reject you. Most of them are evil doers.”

and so it goes.

PS;
“idolaters” in Koran include especially Christians (!) (Islam teaches that the Christian divine status of Jesus is idolatry, and Christianity was the principal form of
idolatry known to Mohammed)

and
“non-believers” generally or often are understood by Muslims to include everybody outside Islam (Christians, Jews, Hindus, whatever)


so while there are some ‘nice nice’ verses in the Koran, and these are frequently quoted to us by Muslim=apologists, the point is that those verses date back to Mohammed’s nicer, earlier years..... and most Islamics do not follow them ...because Mohammed’s later teachings in the Koran were the violent and hate=filled contrary verses as above

here are key verses


25 posted on 01/24/2016 1:49:26 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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To: alloysteel
>>Whether some scholars wish to admit it or not, almost all modern law codes in Western countries that claim a Christian heritage are based on these concepts.<<

The SCOTUS has chiseled on the front of the building above the doors...Moses, sitting with two tablets, one in each hand.

26 posted on 01/24/2016 1:49:53 PM PST by servantboy777
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