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Senator Ted Cruz Has an Unstable Glenn Beck Problem – The Beck, Barton and Mercer Connections…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | Jan 21 2016 | Sundance

Posted on 01/24/2016 5:12:14 PM PST by euram

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To: vortec94; John S Mosby
The DNA "test" determined that some one in the Jefferson line was the father. TJ's brother was in charge of the plantation while TJ was doing government service. When he got back to Monticello, he discovered his brother was raping slaves and sent him off. He also discovered that this brother had bankrupted him. This is another urban myth about TJ.

How can this explain the births of Sally Hemings' children all recorded in Jefferson's records in the 13 years between 1795 and 1808? He sent his brother away after 13 years of consorting with Sally only after the last child was conceived, yet Jefferson had recorded every birth in his journals in his own hand. That is slander against Jefferson's intelligence and flies in the face of common sense.

Thomas Jefferson fully documented ever aspect of his life in great detail. He noted everything even down to the most mundane items in his journal. There are no known visits of his brother in the time periods Sally would have conceived.

Jefferson freed the children of Sally Hemings and even had the Virginia legislature pass an special act to allow all of Sally Hemings' children to remain in Virginia even though the removal law of 1806 mandated that all manumitted slaves must leave the Commonwealth of Virginia within a year after their freedom.

Additionally, Jefferson allowed Sally Hemings' children to leave Monticello in between 1820 to 1822 and live elsewhere on their own, several years before they were freed in Jefferson's will.

Children of Sally Hemings (known from Jefferson's records):

Harriet (1795—1797)
Beverly (1798—post 1822)
Harriet (1801—post 1822)
daughter (1799—1800)
Madison (1805—1877)
Eston (1808—1856)

1797—1801 Served as United States Vice President.
1801—1809 Served as United States President.

Randolph Jefferson (1755—1815 @ 60 years of age), Lived on his plantation, Snowden, about twenty miles south of Monticello in Buckingham County. First married in 1781; widowed some time between 1792 and 1807; remarried circa 1808.

There is no surviving correspondence between the brothers from 1792 to 1807. Thomas Jefferson's two surviving letters of 1807, which express the hope that his brother would visit Monticello during his spring and late summer vacations, suggest that similar invitations were extended in the preceding years. The correspondence also suggests that Randolph Jefferson may not always have acted on these invitations. In his post—1807 letters, ill health, the poor state of the roads, and other circumstances were often cited as reasons to postpone his Monticello visits. In fact, his only recorded Monticello visits in this period were made on his own business and not at his brother's invitation.

Only four recorded visits to Monticello (in September 1802, September 1805, May 1808, and sometime in 1814) are known, none related to Sally Hemings's conceptions. In August 1807, a probable conception time for Eston Hemings, Thomas Jefferson wrote his brother that "we shall be happy to see you also" at Monticello, where Randolph's twin sister, Anna Marks, was then visiting. A search of visitors' accounts, memorandum books, and Jefferson's published and unpublished correspondence provided no indication that Randolph did, in fact, come at this time. A similar search was made of the probable conception time for Madison Hemings, without finding reference to a Randolph Jefferson visit.

MADISON HEMINGS — Status:
Born a slave; freed by Jefferson's will at age twenty—one, an age he had reached by Jefferson's death; at Jefferson's request, the Virginia legislature passed an act allowing Madison and Eston Hemings, and three other relatives mentioned in the will, to remain in the state despite the 1806 removal law. (Jefferson will, in Bear.122; Acts of Assembly [Richmond, 1826], p. 127)

ESTON HEMINGS — Status:
Born a slave; bequeathed freedom at age twenty—one by Jefferson's will, but given "the remainder of his time" at age nineteen by Jefferson's executors; at Jefferson's request, the Virginia legislature passed an act allowing Madison and Eston Hemings, and three other relatives mentioned in the will, to remain in the state despite the 1806 removal law. (Jefferson will, in Bear.122; Madison Hemings 1873; Acts of Assembly [Richmond, 1826], p. 127)


Appendix H: Sally Hemings and Her Children


I have visited his home and seen the evidence of Jefferson's greatness. I lived the years of my secondary schooling just across the mountain from Monticello. I have read his letters and journal entries. I believe his was the greatest mind America has been privileged to have, with the honorable mention of Ben Franklin. Any personal relationships Jefferson may have had only contributed to his greatness.
181 posted on 01/26/2016 11:37:01 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! Trump 2016!)
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Appreciate your work, arguments and position taken, and heartily agree with your statement about Jefferson as the greatest mind America has been privileged to have. However, as a biochemist clinician, must part ways when the absolute genetic marker study outcomes (which show only that any one of several male Jeffersons contributed sperm) are forcibly (and wishfully- to serve a “historically based” agenda) merged and massaged with scant and sketchy recorded information derived from letters and contrived suppostitional timelines of “possible conception dates”. Have no doubt that TJ from his many writings, would have manumitted all his slaves if VA law allowed it, because he could see where this was going to lead in the new nation. A belief held though the hindsight of the monumental losses our family had as a result of the subject not being resolved with forethought, as Jefferson advocated (and tried to do so in the Declaration of Independence clashing with Franklin on the topic). Deo Vindice.


182 posted on 01/27/2016 6:24:54 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: higgmeister

I’m well and truely wrong! I will boww to your documentation. Well done.


183 posted on 01/27/2016 7:04:18 AM PST by vortec94
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To: John S Mosby; vortec94

Thank you both. As I have said, I take this position because I believe the same circumstances occurred in my family.


184 posted on 01/27/2016 11:32:42 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! Trump 2016!)
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