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CNN: Why Ted Cruz Is Eligible To Be pPresident
CNN ^ | January 14, 2016

Posted on 01/27/2016 2:14:24 PM PST by Yosemitest


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; nbc
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Even the extremely LIBERAL CNN acknowledges it.
1 posted on 01/27/2016 2:14:24 PM PST by Yosemitest
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To: Yosemitest

“Even the extremely LIBERAL CNN acknowledges it.”

LOL!

They aren’t acknowledging anything.

They are waiting for the green light from the DNC, where they will quickly change tune.

This is of no use to them right now.


2 posted on 01/27/2016 2:16:45 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik
We shall see.
BUT the LAW ... IS ... THE LAW !
3 posted on 01/27/2016 2:18:50 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: VanDeKoik

Exactly....they will use it at some point.


4 posted on 01/27/2016 2:19:12 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: Yosemitest

“p” President?
Does Ted need to urinate to prove himself?


5 posted on 01/27/2016 2:19:30 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: Yosemitest
The statute on the Canadian Books at the time of Cruz's Canadian birth made Cruz a Natural born Citizen of Canada. US laws made him a naturalized citizen of the United States.

it means every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.

(Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

John Armor Bingham (January 21, 1815-March 19, 1900) was an American Republican congressman from the U.S. state of Ohio, judge advocate in the trial of the Abraham Lincoln assassination and a prosecutor in the impeachment trials of Andrew Johnson. He is also the principal framer of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language, a natural-born citizen. It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred citizenship to the place of birth.

Justice Curtis in his dissenting opinion of the Dred Scott decision and speaking specifically of natural born citizens and article II, section I, clause 5

It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.

James Madison

The doctrine of the common law is that every man born within its jurisdiction is a subject of the sovereign of the country where he is born, and allegiance is not personal to the sovereign in the extent that has been contended for; it is due to him in his political capacity of sovereign of the territory where the person owing the allegiance as born.

Kilham v. Ward 2 Mass. 236, 26 (1806)

As the President is required to be a native citizen of the United States. Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction and allegiance of the United States.

James Kent, COMMENTARIES ON AMERICAN LAW (1826)

That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted) is a happy means of security against foreign influence, A very respectable political writer makes the following pertinent remarks upon this subject. Prior to the adoption of the constitution, the people inhabiting the different states might be divided into two classes: natural born citizens, or those born within the state, and aliens, or such as were born out of it.

St. George Tucker, BLACKSTONE'S COMMENTARIES (1803)

Allegiance is nothing more than the tie or duty of obedience of a subject to the sovereign under whose protection he is, and allegiance by birth is that which arises from being born within the dominions and under the protection of a particular sovereign. Two things usually concur to create citizenship: first, birth locally within the dominions of the sovereign, and secondly, birth within the protection and obedience, or, in other words, within the allegiance of the sovereign.That the father and mother of the demandant were British born subjects is admitted. If he was born before 4 July, 1776, it is as clear that he was born a British subject. If he was born after 4 July, 1776, and before 15 September, 1776 [the date the British occupied New York], he was born an American citizen, whether his parents were at the time of his birth British subjects or American citizens. Nothing is better settled at the common law than the doctrine that the children even of aliens born in a country while the parents are resident there under the protection of the government and owing a temporary allegiance thereto are subjects by birth.

Justice Story, concurring opinion,Inglis v. Sailorsâ Snug Harbor, 3 Pet. 99, 155,164. (1830)

The country where one is born, how accidental soever his birth in that place may have been, and although his parents belong to another country, is that to which he owes allegiance. Hence the expression natural born subject or citizen, & all the relations thereout growing. To this there are but few exceptions, and they are mostly introduced by statutes and treaty regulations, such as the children of seamen and ambassadors born abroad, and the like.

Leake v. Gilchrist, 13 N.C. 73 (N.C. 1829)

Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.

William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States, pg. 86 (1829)

The right of citizenship never descends in the legal sense, either by the common law or under the common naturalization acts. It is incident to birth in the country, or it is given personally by statute. The child of an alien, if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle

Horace Binney, American Law Register, 2 Amer.Law Reg.193, 203, 204, 206, 208 (February 1854).

That all natural born citizens, or persons born within the limits of the United States, and all aliens subject to the restrictions hereinafter mentioned, may inherit real estate and make their pedigree by descent from any ancestor lineal or collateral.

January 28, 1838, Acts of the State of Tennessee passed at the General Assembly, pg. 266 (1838)

The term citizen, was used in the constitution as a word, the meaning of which was already established and well understood. And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President. The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not.

Lynch vs. Clarke (NY 1844)

Every person, then, born in the country, and that shall have attained the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States, is eligible to the office of president.

Lysander Spooner, The Unconstitionality of Slavery, pg. 119 (1845)

It is the very essence of the condition of a natural born citizen, of one who is a member of the state by birth within and under it, that his rights are not derived from the mere will of the state.

The New Englander, Vol. III, pg. 434 (1845)

This is called becoming naturalized; that is, becoming entitled to all the rights and privileges of natural born citizens, or citizens born in this country.

Andrew White Young, First lessons in Civil Government, pg. 82 (1856).

The Constitution itself does not make the citizens, (it is. in fact,made by them.) It only intends and recognizes such of them as are natural—home-born—and provides for the naturalization of such of them as were alien—foreign-born—making the latter, as far as nature will allow, like the former.

Attorney General Bates, Opinion of Citizenship, (1862)

All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural-born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.

Justice Swayne, United States v. Rhodes, 1 Abbott, US 28 (Cir. Ct. Ky 1866)

Natural-born Citizens, those that are born within the jurisdiction of a national government; i.e., in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens, temporarily residing abroad.

William Cox Cochran, The student's law lexicon: a dictionary of legal words and phrases : with appendices, Pg. 185 (1888)

Citizens are either natural-born or naturalized. One who is born in the United States or under its jurisdiction is a natural-born citizen without reference to the nationality of his parents. Their presence here constitutes a temporary allegiance, sufficient to make a child a citizen.

Theodore Dwight, Edward Dwight, Commentaries on the law of persons and personal property, pg. 125 (1894)

The notion that there is any common law principle to naturalize the children born in foreign countries, of native-born American father and mother, father or mother, must be discarded. There is not, and never was, any such common law principle.

Binney on Alienigenae, 14, 20; 2 Amer.Law Reg.199, 203

6 posted on 01/27/2016 2:19:44 PM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: Yosemitest

Well, that settles it then: CNN has speaketh!


7 posted on 01/27/2016 2:22:54 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: RC one

I am beginning to think Cruz will not have to cross that bridge.


8 posted on 01/27/2016 2:23:21 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (I like Trump and Cruz. Leave me the heck alone.)
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To: Yosemitest

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen

The Harvard Law Review Article Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

9 posted on 01/27/2016 2:26:44 PM PST by Godebert
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To: TornadoAlley3

I am beginning to think Cruz will not have to cross that bridge.

**************

Probably not this cycle but four or eight years hence the
bridge may appear again.


10 posted on 01/27/2016 2:28:43 PM PST by deport
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To: Yosemitest

This is a good article, by a respected Con law prof. Not saying we would agree with him on many things, but still, he is a serious scholar.

But I still think his very first point is important: Congress gets to judge his eligibility. Could Cruz really win in Congress? I actually think not. I think McConnell would sink him in a heartbeat.


11 posted on 01/27/2016 2:29:03 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: RC one
Not only could the Founding Father define "natural born citizen", BUT ... THE FOUNDING FATHERS DID DEFINE IT !
And you ARE refusing the definition of "natural born citizen" CLEARLY DEFINED by our FOUNDING FATHERS !



The only definition that matters is the one GIVEN BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS.


The Naturalization Act of 1790, let's read it !


So think about this: Also Notice the signature blocks at the bottom of this:



1st United States Congress, 21-26 Senators and 59-65 Representatives



12 posted on 01/27/2016 2:29:20 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Godebert

13 posted on 01/27/2016 2:30:35 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Ruh OH, CNN????


14 posted on 01/27/2016 2:30:57 PM PST by Cyman
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Some days, I have more "typos" than others.
Sorry.
15 posted on 01/27/2016 2:31:48 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: VanDeKoik

The argument for Cruz’s eligibility hinges on the Naturalization Act of 1790. The problem is, this act was repealed. And, no other subsequent laws by Congress ever used the words “natural born citizen.” They didn’t because they don’t, because of the Constitution, redefine the term as used by the Framers, “natural born citizen.” Anyone who know what the Framers intended, will not confuse the term “natural born citizen” with “citizen.” Those who do, are doing what Obama did to fraudulently slip into office illegible to serve.


16 posted on 01/27/2016 2:32:15 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: VanDeKoik
"Even the extremely LIBERAL CNN acknowledges it." LOL! They aren't acknowledging anything. They are waiting for the green light from the DNC, where they will quickly change tune. This is of no use to them right now.

You are right. They are in bed with Trump now.

17 posted on 01/27/2016 2:33:35 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Yosemitest

AllsOK, but...

What if Cruz’s urine is found to be Canoogian?

DOOM!


18 posted on 01/27/2016 2:34:21 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: RC one

The statute on the Canadian Books at the time of Cruz’s Canadian birth made Cruz a Natural born Citizen of Canada.”

Bear with me here.

Is it possible, though I know it sounds weird, that he was a natural born citizen of both countries b/c of their respective laws at the time of his birth?

And if that is the case, wouldn’t that make sense as to why it was totally appropriate for him to set aside his Canadian (natural born, but never “used”) citizenship as he did a few years ago?

I think that actually makes sense.


19 posted on 01/27/2016 2:34:29 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Yosemitest

Congress already gave a definition in SR 511. Born on US soil to TWO US citizens though on the final draft they fudged on McCain being born on US soil since there wasn’t a maternity ward on base:

04.10.08
The Introduction Of A Senate Resolution

Senators: McCain Is A ‘Natural Born Citizen’ Senators Introduce Resolution To Make Clear Senate’s Position On Candidate’s Status

WASHINGTON (Thursday, April 10, 2008) – Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) today introduced a resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that presidential candidate and current Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) is a ‘natural born Citizen,’ as specified in the Constitution and eligible to run for President.

In February, The New York Times published a report calling into question the legality of McCain’s presidential run. McCain was born to American citizens stationed on an American Naval base in the Panama Canal Zone. He has since served in the U.S. Navy, and, since 1983, has served in the U.S. Congress.

“Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy. “I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate.”

“It is silly for anyone to argue that Senator McCain is not eligible to become president,” said McCaskill. “I would hope that this is something we can all agree on, for goodness sakes.”

At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President.

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.

“That is mine, too,” said Leahy.

The text of the resolution and Leahy’s remarks follow.

# # # # #

110TH CONGRESS

2D SESSION

S. RES. __

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

_______________

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself and Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on

_______________

RESOLUTION

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ of the United States;

Whereas the term ‘‘natural born Citizen’’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to American citizens serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;

Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term ‘‘natural born Citizen’’;

Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;

Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.

Statement Of Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.),

Chairman, Committee On The Judiciary,

On The Introduction Of A Senate Resolution

April 10, 2008

Today I join Senator Claire McCaskill in introducing a resolution to express the common sense of everyone here that Senator McCain is a “natural born Citizen,” as the term is used in the Constitution of the United States. Our Constitution contains three requirements for a person to be eligible to be President – the person must have reached the age of 35; must have resided in America for 14 years; and must be a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ of the United States. Certainly there is no doubt that Senator McCain is of sufficient years on this earth and in this country given that he has been serving in Washington for over 25 years. However, some pundits have raised the question of whether he is a “natural born Citizen” because he was born outside of the official borders of the United States.

John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American Naval base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936. Numerous legal scholars have looked into the purpose and intent of the “natural born Citizen” requirement. As far as I am aware, no one has unearthed any reason to think that the Framers would have wanted to limit the rights of children born to military families stationed abroad or that such a limited view would serve any noble purpose enshrined in our founding document. Based on the understanding of the pertinent sources of constitutional meaning, it is widely believed that if someone is born to American citizens anywhere in the world they are natural born citizens.

It is interesting to note that another previous presidential candidate, George Romney, was also born outside of the United States. He was widely understood to be eligible to be President. Senator Barry Goldwater was born in a U.S territory that later became the State of Arizona so some even questioned his eligibility. Certainly the millions of Americans who voted for these two Republican candidates believed that they were eligible to assume the office of the President. The same is true today.

Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen. I recently asked Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, a former Federal judge, if he had any doubts in his mind. He did not. I ask unanimous consent that the relevant excerpt from the Judiciary Committee hearing where Secretary Chertoff testified be made a part of the record.

I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate and I thank the Senator from Missouri for working with me on this.

# # # # #

EXCERPT OF SECRETARY CHERTOFF TESTIMONY FROM APRIL 2, 2008:

***

Chairman Leahy. We will come back to that. I would mention one other thing, if I might, Senator Specter. Let me just ask this: I believe—and we have had some question in this Committee to have a special law passed declaring that Senator McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal, that he meets the constitutional requirement to be President. I fully believe he does. I have never had any question in my mind that he meets our constitutional requirement. You are a former Federal judge. You are the head of the agency that executes Federal immigration law. Do you have any doubt in your mind—I mean, I have none in mine. Do you have any doubt in your mind that he is constitutionally eligible to become President?

Secretary Chertoff. My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen.

Chairman Leahy. That is mine, too. Thank you.


20 posted on 01/27/2016 2:34:43 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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