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1 posted on 01/29/2016 8:52:53 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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Except in 2013 when he supported it.


2 posted on 01/29/2016 8:54:00 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Trumpbots Vs. Cruznadians - the struggle is real.)
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3 posted on 01/29/2016 8:55:34 AM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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I guess that depends on what the meaning of Amnesty is. Aren’t you tired of lawyer/political speak and squabbling over what the definition of “is” is?


6 posted on 01/29/2016 8:57:20 AM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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Apparently there's a difference between opposing amnesty and welcoming illegals with teddy bears. Sort of like the definition of "is".

11 posted on 01/29/2016 8:58:59 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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Except when he was for it.

And was silent about it in the beginning of the campaign, saying condescendingly that ‘The American people don’t want to have that conversation.”

A consistent Conservative wouldn’t have to avoid the subject, only talking about it after Trump made it a topic.


13 posted on 01/29/2016 8:59:27 AM PST by CottonBall
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Sept 2013--Cruz Tries to Claim the Middle Ground on Immigration

What Mr. Cruz has tried to articulate in both word and deed is a middle ground. It got no support from Democrats in Washington, but it goes further than many on the far right want to go by offering leniency to undocumented immigrants here already: A path to legal status, but not to citizenship. A green card with no right to naturalization.

Immigration-reform legislation from the Senate’s so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Mr. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

"The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight," he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

Mr. Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. He said he was against naturalization because it rewarded lawbreakers and was unfair to legal immigrants. It also perpetuates illegal crossings, he added.

Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.

It depends on what the meaning of amnesty is for Cruz. Legalization is amnesty.

Dec 2015--Reporter asks Ted Cruz four times: "How do you define amnesty?"

15 posted on 01/29/2016 9:00:46 AM PST by kabar
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Ted Cruz: I'm the only candidate who has consistently opposed amnesty

Actually, that would be Rick Santorum, not that it's any of my business :-)
17 posted on 01/29/2016 9:01:40 AM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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BS! Cruz just wants to redefine what an illegal alien is and what amnesty is.

Cruz wants to give them all legal status to remain here.

Cruz: “...once we’ve demonstrated that we can [secure the border], then we can have a conversation about what to do about whatever people remain illegally,” Cruz added. When asked if that conversation included the potential for a pathway to legal status, he repeated, “We can have that conversation with the American people once we secure the border.”


18 posted on 01/29/2016 9:02:15 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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Yesterday “No one talk to Cruz” video was sufficient to tell everything about Cruz.


22 posted on 01/29/2016 9:03:42 AM PST by jennychase
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23 posted on 01/29/2016 9:04:07 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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With Ted, it is always about I, not we.


24 posted on 01/29/2016 9:04:13 AM PST by dforest
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Cruz would be great. But can he get elected. All of the Dems are going to vote.


25 posted on 01/29/2016 9:04:44 AM PST by Beowulf9
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Ted Cruz: I'm the only candidate who has consistently opposed amnesty
You're also an admitted liar on the subject so now no one knows when you aren't lying.
28 posted on 01/29/2016 9:06:19 AM PST by lewislynn
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The three big issues for the next four years are: Amnesty, Obamacare, and guns. Any candidate who is not a close match to the correct answer on all three is unacceptable. No Amnesty. Completely repeal (not repeal and replace) of Obamacare. Roll back existing laws restricting our individual, God-given right to keep and bear arms.

Other issues matter too, including shrinking the absolute size of Federal Government. Reducing the rate of abortion is a big positive, but there is little that a president can do in that direction, in the short term. Improving our military rules of engagement is a big positive, but even more important is deciding when, where, and with what objectives to use the military at all. Creating jobs is a big positive, but the best thing a real president can do is get government out of the way so that small businesses can create jobs. Cutting the deficit is extremely important, but even with with the massive $20T debt Obama will be handing over, the other problems are more urgent. The difference is that my vote won’t be decided by these issues (for example, a president’s views on abortion will not change how many babies are murdered by liberals for profit and for spare parts, so the details on abortion will not be decisive in my vote).


33 posted on 01/29/2016 9:08:20 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Some of you Cruz supporters, please explain exactly what Ted means by the term “amnesty”.


47 posted on 01/29/2016 9:24:20 AM PST by Will88
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Cruz appeals to the conservative “checklist” voter

To other types of voters he is unappealing on a personality basis


53 posted on 01/29/2016 9:30:19 AM PST by truth_seeker
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While Trump has been talking a good talk about opposing “Comprehensive immigration reform” (amnesty), Cruz has been doing it: Cruz has actually been fighting the fight, and often alone, against the cheap labor express and its allies.
We can’t have a worthwhile discussion here without willingness to stipulate to facts.


62 posted on 01/29/2016 9:49:49 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Opposing amnesty and stopping the flow of illegal aliens into this country and deporting all illegal aliens are two different things.


82 posted on 01/29/2016 10:23:41 AM PST by upsdriver
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Hasn’t Santorum always opposed it?


89 posted on 01/29/2016 10:36:31 AM PST by Jane Austen (Marco Rubio is the White Obama and beholden to special interests.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Until Trump came along Ted Cruz supported legalization with no pathway to citizenship. Which we all know is a bait and switch since the courts and the Rats would never allow tens of millions of second class citizen to live in the USA. Legalize them and they will get citizenship. Cruz, the smart man ever, knows this.

Which is why Cruz defines amnesty as citizenship, however he is still a liar because Rand Paul had exactly the same position on illegals as Cruz until Trump came along.

Lying for votes and political posturing in the Senate has made Cruz a very unpopular guy. Morning Joe tells how Cruz wanted a floor vote and not one single Senator would second that. Joe said it was unprecedented that no one would go along with Cruz on the courtesy of getting a floor a vote.

93 posted on 01/29/2016 11:12:18 AM PST by jpsb (award.)
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