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What are the differences between Russian and US Military In Syria
SOTT ^ | 2/8/16

Posted on 02/08/2016 7:27:16 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1

A recent US intelligence report said that Daesh (also known as ISIL/Islamic State) is degrading. Two coalitions - one led by the US and the other by Russia - have been involved in fighting the terrorists. It is high time to figure out some differences between the two approaches.

The Common Goal

Russia, the United States, and Syria have one common enemy - the terrorist group Daesh. In September 2014, US President Barack Obama pledged to destroy Daesh with massive airstrikes.

"Our objective is clear: We will degrade, and ultimately destroy, ISIL through a comprehensive and sustained counterterrorism strategy. We will conduct a systematic campaign of airstrikes against these terrorists," he said in a statement.

In November 2015, Russian leader Vladimir Putin described the goal of the Russian aerial campaign in Syria — "to clear the country of terrorists and secure Russia from possible attacks." Meanwhile, he said an additional goal was to "stabilize the legitimate government and create the environment for a political compromise."

Aviation

The Russian task force has supported the Syrian Arab Army, which numbers between 150,000 to 200,000 personnel. According to military analysts, government forces have over 4,000 tanks (the Russian-made T-55, T-72 and the newest T-90A) and nearly 400 warplanes.

The US-led coalition has provided aerial support for the Iraqi Army (800,000 personnel and 389 tanks), the Kurdish militia (70,000 fighters) and various opposition groups (40-60,000 fighters).

(Excerpt) Read more at sott.net ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: putinistas4trump; putinpropaganda; putinsbuttboys; roe; rop; rulesofengagement; russia; russianstatemedia; sputniknews; syria; vladtheimploder
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1 posted on 02/08/2016 7:27:16 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

According to the Pentagon, the US has spent nearly $11.4 million a day for their operations against Daesh in Syria and Iraq. The entire operation has cost $5.8 billion. As a comparison, the US spent $2.5 billion on the war in the Persian Gulf in 1991.

The Russian military has been able to conduct its operations at less of a cost. According to an RBK analysis, one day of the military operations in Syria costs Russia nearly $2.5 million, totaling $225-300 million for the entire operation so far.


2 posted on 02/08/2016 7:28:38 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

The U.S. is led by terrorist traitors. That’s the difference.


3 posted on 02/08/2016 7:31:32 PM PST by The Toll
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

but Obama said the US would never ever get involved in a Foreign war again . Unless it’s helping his Terrorist Muslim Brothers


4 posted on 02/08/2016 7:31:38 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

The Russians don’t fly back to base with their ordnance still on board.
The majority of our sorties are denied clearence by the lawyers.


5 posted on 02/08/2016 7:32:14 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: The Toll

Not True. You have to be a citizen before you can be a traitor.


6 posted on 02/08/2016 7:35:09 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: The Toll

Ding! Ding! We have a winner!!

pretty obvious, right?

Sherlock Holmes not needed.


7 posted on 02/08/2016 7:38:30 PM PST by dp0622
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
Documents Show How Russia's Troll Army Hit America:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-hit-america
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Kremlin pays internet trolls to flatter Putin
Ben Hoyle - Moscow
October 11 2013

Russian investigative journalists and bloggers have uncovered an army of internet trolls paid to pour invective on the Kremlin's opponents and heap praise on President Putin.

Posing as job applicants, the reporters discovered the government hacks working at a small company called the St Petersburg Internet Research Agency. ..."

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/asia/article3891720.ece

8 posted on 02/08/2016 7:41:21 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Russian Propaganda Is Taking Over Online Comment Boards

Pamela Engel
May 4, 2014

British newspaper The Guardian notes that recently, readers have been complaining of pro-Russia propaganda being posted in the comments section of articles about Russia and Ukraine.

One reader wrote to The Guardian:

"One need only pick a Ukraine article at random, pick any point in the comments at random, and they will find themselves in a sea of incredibly aggressive and hostile users (the most obvious have accounts created since February 2014 ... but there also exist those who registered with the Guardian before the high point of the crisis) who post the most biased, inciteful [sic] pro-Kremlin, anti-western propaganda that seems as if it's taken from a template, so repetitive are the statements. Furthermore, these comments are consistently capturing inordinate numbers of 'recommends', sometimes on the order of 10 to 12 times what pro-Ukrainian comments receive."

Guardian comment moderators believe this is an orchestrated campaign.

Russia has worked hard to make people believe that the country is supporting the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine and defending those people against some type of threat. These "comment mills" play into that strategy.

Last year, The Atlantic wrote about how the Russian government apparently pays people to "sit in a room, surf the Internet, and leave sometimes hundreds of postings a day that criticize the country's opposition and promote Kremlin-backed policymakers."

This practice isn't new, according to The Atlantic. But it can stifle open discussion about political issues in Russia, giving a louder voice to those who support the Kremlin.

http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-paying-people-to-post-pro-russia-propaganda-in-comments-2014-5

9 posted on 02/08/2016 7:41:42 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Difference?

Ivan is not walking around with hands tied behind his back.


10 posted on 02/08/2016 7:44:16 PM PST by CharleysPride (Filter is with In-Laws, may be in frequent need of correction...(she made me write this))
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
Obama is about the best thing that ever happened to those seeking to restore the Russian empire. He gave away the store on missile defense and nukes (the "New START" nuke treaty and the Obama-Putin Iran nuke deal). That plus he slashed our military, obviously a huge advantage to the Russians. And he didn't do these things out of nativity or "incompetence". He did it DELIBERATELY.

From the campaign trail, 2008...

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090412030633/http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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From Investor's Business Daily, Jan 2012:

Obama To Betray Missile Defense Secrets To Moscow

Investor's Business Daily ^ | January 9, 2012 | IBD staff

Appeasement: From ObamaCare to recess appointments, honoring the Constitution has not been an administration hallmark. But when it comes to betraying secrets to mollify the Russians, it becomes a document the president hides behind.

It was bad enough that the 2012 defense authorization bill signed by President Obama set America on a downward spiral of military mediocrity.

He also issued a signing statement, something he once opposed, saying that language in the bill aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 - linchpin of our missile defense - might impinge on his constitutional foreign-policy authority.

Section 1227 of the defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they'd be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.

The president is required to certify that any technology shared will not be passed on to third parties such as China, North Korea or Iran, that the Russians will not use transferred secrets to develop countermeasures and that the Russians are reciprocating in sharing missile-defense technology. ..."

"In his signing statement, Obama said he would treat these legal restrictions as 'non-binding' and that 'my administration will also interpret and implement section 1244 (sic) in a manner that does not interfere with the president's constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs and avoids the undue disclosure of sensitive diplomatic communications.'

Betraying our secrets is easy for a president who betrayed allies Poland and the Czech Republic to placate Moscow.

Poland was to host ground-based interceptors such as those we've deployed in California and Alaska, with missile-tracking radar deployed in the Czech Republic.

Obama pulled the plug when Moscow objected. Never mind, he said, we have a better approach: a four-phase plan that calls for using three versions of the Navy's Standard SM-3 interceptor missile that forms the backbone of its Aegis missile-defense system.

The fourth phase consists of a missile still on the drawing board scheduled for deployment by 2020, a version of the SM-3 called the Block IIB. It would intercept hostile missiles in the "early intercept" phase before an enemy missile could release its warheads and decoys. The Russians want the SM-3's secrets, and Obama appears to be willing to turn them over.

The president wants to save the New Start Treaty, which the Russians have threatened to abandon if we try to fully implement President Reagan's dream of defeating a nuclear missile attack.

Russia has unilaterally asserted that any qualitative or quantitative improvement in U.S. missile defenses would be grounds for withdrawal from the treaty.

Read More At Investor's Business Daily:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/010912-597158-obama-gives-russia-missile-defense-secrets.htm#ixzz3jXmMbVwY
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March 2012...

"Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:

Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it's important for him to give me space."

Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ..."

Obama: "This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility."

Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir."

"This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility." That statement tells us much about the president's mindset.

The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration. Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the president's comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.

In addition, there is the phrase "on all these issues," implying more is at stake than just missile defense."

Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldn't be too flexible:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/29/obama-plans-double-cross-on-missile-defense/print/
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Russia Ramping Up Military Drills to Cold War Levels, NATO Says

Feb 5, 2016 - FoxNews.com

Russia has stepped up its military maneuvers to a level unseen since the height of the Cold War, according to a new report released by NATO Thursday.

Jens Stoltenberg, the alliance's secretary general and author of the report, noted that Moscow has conducted at least 18 large-scale exercises over the past three years, "some of which have involved more than 100,000 troops."

Those exercises included several simulated nuclear attacks against NATO allies and partner nations ..."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/02/05/russia-ramping-up-military-drills-to-cold-war-levels-nato-says.html


11 posted on 02/08/2016 7:47:53 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Couple of differences
1) Russian troops speak Russian. American troops speak American=English and Spanish and about thirty other languages.

2) One is lead by a man who loves his country and wants the best for it. The other is led by Obama.


12 posted on 02/08/2016 7:50:38 PM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

The Russians are killing isis basturds. That is the difference. What a joke our policy is. Let them do it and move our troops to the Mexican border to stop Isis,welfare babies and disease from killing our people.


13 posted on 02/08/2016 7:50:42 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: ETL

So now it’s not just your closet but the entire internet is filled with Neo-Soviets as well? Those boogie men sure get around.


14 posted on 02/08/2016 7:50:47 PM PST by The Toll
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

In a word, will.

AS in will to win.


15 posted on 02/08/2016 7:52:27 PM PST by NonValueAdded (In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act)
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To: The Toll

You’re so dumb you misspelled your own name. You left out the R.


16 posted on 02/08/2016 7:56:17 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: ETL

The Obama Ass Kisser is back!

Making a case for your hero?


17 posted on 02/08/2016 7:58:13 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: ETL

Putin says BOO!


18 posted on 02/08/2016 7:58:53 PM PST by The Toll
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

The Russians attack and kill the enemy.
The US worries about global warming effect on the battlefield.


19 posted on 02/08/2016 8:04:02 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
The Obama Ass Kisser is back! Making a case for your hero?

You friggin jerk. Not only can you barely write, you don't understand what you read either. I'm saying that POS saboteur-in-chief Obama has bent over backwards to appease your boy KGB/FSB Putin. They are BOTH evil bastards bent on crippling America's defenses and strengthening Russia's. I just provided you the evidence of that. Russia is on the move to restore their lost empire. And Obama has paved the way for that to happen.

20 posted on 02/08/2016 8:11:38 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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