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Trump's Dishonest Iraq War Revisionism
National Review ^ | 2/15/2016 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 02/15/2016 4:17:11 PM PST by gwjack

onald Trump’s star turn as an unexpected ally of Code Pink was widely panned last Saturday evening. Standing next to Jeb Bush at the Republican party’s fractious South Carolina debate, Trump seemed determined to indulge the most idiosyncratic of the anti-war movement’s critiques. The invasion of Iraq, he proposed, was based upon a “lie.” Its advocates, he submitted, were engaged not in a mistake, but in a conspiracy. And, worst of all, George W. Bush was to blame for 9/11.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431346/donald-trump-iraq-war-lies

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Please read the article before beginning to flame. Please restrict your comments to the ones raised by the author.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Gwjack

1 posted on 02/15/2016 4:17:11 PM PST by gwjack
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Geez, dude - it's Chucky "Upchuck" Cooke from the National Spew...
2 posted on 02/15/2016 4:21:15 PM PST by kiryandil ("Our Muslim-In-Chief, Barack Obama - the Quislaming in the White House")
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To: gwjack

“Please restrict your comments to the ones raised by the author.”

Probably 9/10 comments will be Trumpsters just attacking NR and the author anyway.


3 posted on 02/15/2016 4:22:04 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: gwjack
From the New York Times
Feb 14, 2016

Transcript of the Republican Presidential Debate

TRUMP: You do whatever you want. You call it whatever you want. I want to tell you. They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction, there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/14/us/politics/transcript-of-the-republican-presidential-debate.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

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NY Times discovers that Saddam did have WMDs after all

By Thomas Lifson

President Bush "lied" about Iraq's WMDs - thus goes the article of faith among liberals, endlessly repeated by the likes of Ron Fournier and Jon Stewart as a kind of progressive catechism.  Except that it is a libel, as even the New York Times indirectly acknowledges today.

C.J. Chivers and Eric Schmitt write:

The Central Intelligence Agency, working with American troops during the occupation of Iraq, repeatedly purchased nerve-agent rockets from a secretive Iraqi seller, part of a previously undisclosed effort to ensure that old chemical weapons remaining in Iraq did not fall into the hands of terrorists or militant groups, according to current and former American officials.

The extraordinary arms purchase plan, known as Operation Avarice, began in 2005 and continued into 2006, and the American military deemed it a nonproliferation success. It led to the United States' acquiring and destroying at least 400 Borak rockets, one of the internationally condemned chemical weapons that Saddam Hussein's Baathist government manufactured in the 1980s but that were not accounted for by United Nations inspections mandated after the 1991 Persian Gulf war.

Note that despite the firestorm of slander the Bush administration endured over its "lies" on WMD, the president never acted to declassify the information on the CIA buyback program, and as a result today it is an article of faith on the left that he lied us into war.

At the time of the invasion of Iraq, there was no way to know that:

These munitions were remnants of an Iraqi special weapons program that was abandoned long before the 2003 invasion,

But:

 they turned up sporadically during the American occupation in buried caches, as part of improvised bombs or on black markets.

American Thinker reported on the WMD evidence found in Iraq 11 years ago.  

The CIA's program appears to have put at risk soldiers who were not warned of the risks they faced in handling these potent weapons:

Not long after Operation Avarice had secured its 400th rocket, in 2006, American troops were exposed several times to other chemical weapons. Many of these veterans said that they had not been warned by their units about the risks posed by the chemical weapons and that their medical care and follow-up were substandard, in part because military doctors seemed unaware that chemical munitions remained in Iraq.

In some cases, victims of exposure said, officers forbade them to discuss what had occurred. The Pentagon now says hundreds of other veterans reported on health-screening forms that they believed they too had been exposed during the war.

Aaron Stein, an associate fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, said the belated acknowledgment of a chemical-rocket purchases, as well as the potentially worrisome laboratory analysis of the related sarin samples, raised questions about the military's commitment to the well-being of those it sent to war.

We have been fed a line of bull over Saddam and WMDs.

President Bush "lied" about Iraq's WMDs - thus goes the article of faith among liberals, endlessly repeated by the likes of Ron Fournier and Jon Stewart as a kind of progressive catechism.  Except that it is a libel, as even the New York Times indirectly acknowledges today.

C.J. Chivers and Eric Schmitt write:

The Central Intelligence Agency, working with American troops during the occupation of Iraq, repeatedly purchased nerve-agent rockets from a secretive Iraqi seller, part of a previously undisclosed effort to ensure that old chemical weapons remaining in Iraq did not fall into the hands of terrorists or militant groups, according to current and former American officials.

The extraordinary arms purchase plan, known as Operation Avarice, began in 2005 and continued into 2006, and the American military deemed it a nonproliferation success. It led to the United States' acquiring and destroying at least 400 Borak rockets, one of the internationally condemned chemical weapons that Saddam Hussein's Baathist government manufactured in the 1980s but that were not accounted for by United Nations inspections mandated after the 1991 Persian Gulf war.

Note that despite the firestorm of slander the Bush administration endured over its "lies" on WMD, the president never acted to declassify the information on the CIA buyback program, and as a result today it is an article of faith on the left that he lied us into war.

At the time of the invasion of Iraq, there was no way to know that:

These munitions were remnants of an Iraqi special weapons program that was abandoned long before the 2003 invasion,

But:

 they turned up sporadically during the American occupation in buried caches, as part of improvised bombs or on black markets.

American Thinker reported on the WMD evidence found in Iraq 11 years ago.  

The CIA's program appears to have put at risk soldiers who were not warned of the risks they faced in handling these potent weapons:

Not long after Operation Avarice had secured its 400th rocket, in 2006, American troops were exposed several times to other chemical weapons. Many of these veterans said that they had not been warned by their units about the risks posed by the chemical weapons and that their medical care and follow-up were substandard, in part because military doctors seemed unaware that chemical munitions remained in Iraq.

In some cases, victims of exposure said, officers forbade them to discuss what had occurred. The Pentagon now says hundreds of other veterans reported on health-screening forms that they believed they too had been exposed during the war.

Aaron Stein, an associate fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, said the belated acknowledgment of a chemical-rocket purchases, as well as the potentially worrisome laboratory analysis of the related sarin samples, raised questions about the military's commitment to the well-being of those it sent to war.

We have been fed a line of bull over Saddam and WMDs.

source:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/02/ny_times_discovers_that_saddam_did_have_wmds_after_all.html


4 posted on 02/15/2016 4:22:13 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: gwjack

National Review? Phfft!


5 posted on 02/15/2016 4:22:24 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: gwjack

Know your author alert:
Charles C. W. Cooke February 26, 2014 3:28 PM

If atheism and conservatism are incompatible, then I am not a conservative.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/372060/yes-atheism-and-conservatism-are-compatible-charles-c-w-cooke


6 posted on 02/15/2016 4:22:39 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: gwjack
Here's Trump giving his support to the traitor-in-chief on his worldwide apology tour...

TRUMP [on the Larry King Show (April 15, 2009), referring to the then newly elected communist president (Obama)]: "Well, I really like him. I think that he's working very hard. He's trying to rebuild our reputation throughout the world. I mean, we really have lost a lot of reputation in the world. The previous administration [GW Bush] was a total disaster, a total catastrophe."

CNN LARRY KING LIVE Interview with Donald Trump
April 15, 2009

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/15/lkl.01.html

_________________________________________________________

The President's Apology Tour
Great leaders aren't defined by consensus.

By Karl Rove
April 23, 2009

President Barack Obama has finished the second leg of his international confession tour. In less than 100 days, he has apologized on three continents for what he views as the sins of America and his predecessors. ..."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124044156269345357
_________________________________________________________

"Well, I really like him. I think that he's working very hard. He's trying to rebuild our reputation throughout the world."--Trump, April 15, 2009

7 posted on 02/15/2016 4:22:49 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: gwjack

Okay. I separate the two issues ........

(1) George W. Bush was in no way responsible for 911. It was muslim extremists.

(2) George W. Bush took us into Iraq with the central issue being WMDs. He’s got to bear responsibility for doing so.


8 posted on 02/15/2016 4:23:21 PM PST by boycott (--)
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To: gwjack
ISIS might already have their hands on the WMDs that our 'friends' (according to the FR Putinistas) in Russia snuck out of Iraq and into Syria just prior to the war.
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"Romanian intelligence defector Ion Mihai Pacepa alleged that an operation for the removal of chemical weapons was prepared by the Soviet Union for Libya, and that he was told over thirty years ago by Romanian President Nicolae Ceausescu, KGB chairman Yury Andropov, and later, Yevgeny Primakov, about the existence of a similar plan for Iraq.

It is 'perfectly obvious', wrote Pacepa, that the Russian GRU agency helped Saddam Hussein to destroy, hide, or transfer his chemical weapons prior to the American invasion of Iraq in 2003. 'After all, Russia helped Saddam get his hands on them in the first place.'[13]

John Loftus, director of The Intelligence Summit, said in the November 16, 2007 issue of FrontPage Magazine that many documents from Iraq point to WMD being transferred to other countries such as Syria: 'As stated in more detail in my full report, the British, Ukrainian and American secret services all believed that the Russians had organized a last minute evacuation of CW [chemical] and BW [biological] stockpiles from Baghdad to Syria.'

His researchers allegedly found a document ordering the concealment of nuclear weapons equipment in storage facilities under the Euphrates River a few weeks before the invasion.[14]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMD_conjecture_in_the_aftermath_of_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq#Alleged_Russian_involvement
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[13] http://web.archive.org/web/20110712102918/http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2003/aug/20/20030820-081256-6822r/

[14] http://web.archive.org/web/20110810213451/http://archive.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=F715A709-2614-4EA5-967C-F6151F94A364

9 posted on 02/15/2016 4:23:23 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: gwjack
Donald Trump Can't Say 'No' - Is That What We Want in a President?
National Spew ^ | November 20, 2015 | Charles C. W. Cooke
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3363220/posts

Chucky is ALWAYS writing Trump hitpieces. He's a weenie.

10 posted on 02/15/2016 4:24:09 PM PST by kiryandil ("Our Muslim-In-Chief, Barack Obama - the Quislaming in the White House")
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To: gwjack

Guess I don’t follow direction well, not from the article.

But I seriously don’t know how Trump stays ahead when every single paper, news channel, talking head is out to destroy him. It’s shameful, a national campaign against the Republican frontrunner.


11 posted on 02/15/2016 4:24:35 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Boogieman

IBBoogie...


12 posted on 02/15/2016 4:24:37 PM PST by kiryandil ("Our Muslim-In-Chief, Barack Obama - the Quislaming in the White House")
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To: gwjack

Trump-Sheehan ‘16?

lol


13 posted on 02/15/2016 4:25:42 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: gwjack
Who said Bush lied to take the U.S. To war?

Harry Reid

Michael Moore

Nancy Pelosi

Donald Trump

All of the above

14 posted on 02/15/2016 4:26:04 PM PST by wny
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To: gwjack

Cooke. Sheeeesh.

“And, worst of all, George W. Bush was to blame for 9/11.”


Happening under his watch does not equal blame.


15 posted on 02/15/2016 4:28:26 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Boogieman
Probably 9/10 comments will be Trumpsters just attacking NR and the author anyway.

National Review has an agenda and a goal.

Whatever they put out going forward is meaningless.

16 posted on 02/15/2016 4:28:36 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Democrats Must Lose In November)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

“National Review has an agenda and a goal.”

Then it should be simple to refute the thrust of the article by rebutting its points, instead of resorting to a lazy ad hominem.


17 posted on 02/15/2016 4:29:52 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: gwjack
9/11 mastermind Atta's drivers license was suspended for
failure to appear in court......he was in the US on an expired visa.

L/E was contacted about Mideast individuals taking flying lessons who wanted to learn how to takeoff...not how to land.

18 posted on 02/15/2016 4:29:58 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: wny

So what is Cruz’s view on the Iraq war?


19 posted on 02/15/2016 4:30:10 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: gwjack

Can’t we just Gas these National Review pukes.


20 posted on 02/15/2016 4:30:13 PM PST by heights
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