Posted on 02/18/2016 1:00:31 PM PST by wagglebee
A Rat Party appointee will knock that down in nanoseconds.
1 in 100 of 300,000,000 U.S. population = 3,000,000 intersexed people
In a small town with a population of 1,000 people = 10 people
In cities of 1,000,000 people = 10,000 people
Intersexed people are to be found in every county in the United States in small to very large umbers, and all of them need to be able to use public facilities of some kind that is safe for them and for the other people around them in order to maintain public health. That is simple science and the physical facts of life. In past history the people who were intersexed were killed at birth or when later discovered, or were safely integrated into their societies. Christian doctrine does not permit such abortions and killings, so the laws must reflect that by making the circumstances of public health safe for everyone.
ACLU files suit in 5... 4... 3...
Daugaard should NOT support. No “reasonable accomodation” for unreasonable people.
The figure 1 in 100 is a gross exaggeration, since they are lumping in a large number of conditions that are malformations of the urinary tract, and also some glandular abnormalities that may or may not affect the person’s perceptions of their gender. Since its a support site for persons with “intersex” conditions, you might expect such overgeneralizations and hype.
Is that you, HughE?
...and just who put this idea in their pointed little heads to start with???
God bless South Dakota.
I first read your comment to say “A rare flush of sanity...”! LOL
I’ve seen that as well. The old stadiums really didn’t cater to women and the urinals were 16ft long.
Wait. ACLU will sue and say it’s an unconstitutional law.
“Since its a support site for persons with “intersex†conditions, you might expect such overgeneralizations and hype.”
So, how many such persons do you require to be members of the class before you will acknowledge the class has the right to urinate and defecate in privacy and safety for themselves as well as for the other non-involved people around them?
What used to be common decency now has to have a law.
Precisely my first thought. When mental institutions closed this was the cost no one anticipated.
The problem seems not to circulate around any sort of urinary malformation that does not create an identification with the opposite sex; those persons could get a doctor’s note for privacy under any normal conditions. Yet those persons were included in the 1 in 100 number, and should not have been for purposes of this discussion.
The issue of a kid born intersex to such a degree that the kid simply cannot be identified as one or the other affects way fewer than the 1 in 100 you originally threw out — it is a very rare condition. That is also a legitimate doctor’s note condition perhaps requiring bathroom accommodation and working with the school, not suing the school to have the rest of the kids have to deal in the lockerrooms and showers with a complex medical/social problem, especially if the issues of exhibitionism or rape are biologically possible.
The threat for parents is the kids with penises in the girl’s rooms or kids with vaginas in the boys’ rooms. It’s pretty much a problem for families to sort out about how to handle their kid’s condition with the school, if there is a genuine biological malformation, just as they would have to do if their child was born without a leg, or lost an eye or an arm..
But if there is only an emotional disconnect and identification with the other sex, parents do not want their kids having to deal with this situation, which basically pits biologica famlies and “normalish” kids against progressive liberals who want their dysphoric kid to “feel normalized” about their gender dysphoria instead of viewing it as an emotional problem for the family to have to work out, just as they would if their kid had dylexia or blindness.
“Yet those persons were included in the 1 in 100 number, and should not have been for purposes of this discussion.”
I indicated a range of frequency by providing two types of conditions being estimated to demonstrate the number of people in the nation or even in one community are not so trivial as to be negligible enough to disregard with some form of contempt or regarded as contrary to science as the original poster was saying. The issue is a genuine problem in societies, and the historical methods of killing such children and/or subjecting them to degradation that compels such children and adults to commit suicide to escape the tormenting can hardly be described as humane. Likewise, it is not humane to subject women to the mental fears of rape posed by having non-intersexed males in their secluded spaces for privacy. Common sense would appear to indicate a common sense solution that is not going to risk the sexual or the mental health of any of these persons. Unfortunately, we still have a lot of people who get a lot of self satisfaction out of proclaiming themselves to be the moral superiors while paradoxically disregarding the very real science of physical human sexual characteristics that do not conform to their fantasy assumptions of uniformity. Before such laws are even proposed, the proponents of the such laws need to think twice before throwing out the baby with the bathwater when they attempt to craft a law to protect one class of people at the expense of another class of people, and that goes for the proponents of both sides of the argument. They are hurting each other and hurting their ability to defend and protect their own.
For the sake of argument, let’s say that trannies have a right to be accomodated. But so do people who prefer not not be exposed before members of the opposite sex.
This seems a reasonable compromise to me.
The last time I attended a game at Bryant-Denny (admiteddly 20 years ago, or more) it was the same situation.
Needless to say, I was a little uncomfortable with that and stopped going.
Are you talking about multi-stall bathrooms, where they allow both men and women to use it at the same time?
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