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Carrier’s Move to Mexico Was Entirely Predictable
National Review ^ | 02/19/2016 | by Jillian Kay Melchior

Posted on 02/19/2016 5:57:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: central_va

What part of the phrase “international stock holders” don’t you understand?

The part of AMERICANS that vote and own stock in International Corporations, like United Technologies Corporation.
Non citizens do not ( or are not supposed) to have a vote in this country.
What part of the U S Constitution do YOU not understand?


41 posted on 02/19/2016 7:18:03 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: Tupelo

What a dolt, I will spell it out for you. Foreigners i.e. people that are not US citizens can own stock in US companies but they don’t get to vote in the US. There is often a conflict of interest. Get it yet?


42 posted on 02/19/2016 7:22:28 AM PST by central_va
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To: MileHi

EPA did not mess up water heaters last year.

The heaters are exactly the same as before. The insulation is thicker.

To distinguish further, the labeling was changed to allow instant recognition however the content of the labeling was virtually the same

Ons primary problem is that export shipment quantities were reduced because less heaters could be loaded into a 40’ container


43 posted on 02/19/2016 7:23:50 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: bert
Ons primary problem is that export shipment quantities were reduced because less heaters could be loaded into a 40’ container

Yes, which leads to a second problem. Many people will have to remodel their furnace rooms to fit in the new water heater. They are also considerably more expensive.

I did get one of the last run old school 50 gallon heaters last summer. $375. Need to install it this spring.

44 posted on 02/19/2016 7:40:51 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: rlmorel

And I’ll bet some handsome political contributions to boot.


45 posted on 02/19/2016 7:57:30 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: MileHi

I had that very problem and the result was rearranging the stuff in the closet. It might actually end up being a better arrangement of stuff than that which evolved over the last 40 years.

I had this one installedby the plumber. Having done it I think twice before I just wasn’t up to it again.

I have occasion to visit a major heater manufacturer and the actual cost increase is not so much in materials but in the seemingly endless rework of processes and systems.


46 posted on 02/19/2016 8:01:15 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: Donglalinger
When UTC bought Carrier and closed the factory in Syracuse I don’t remember anyone in Indiana complaining.
Following that logic, are the Mexican's complaining?
47 posted on 02/19/2016 8:01:41 AM PST by lewislynn (Ted Cruz: " I'll never have 'a plane with my name" …(or a Presidential seal))
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To: Hawthorn
My aircon guy still swears by Carrier. Says he has seen many units that run well for 25 years or more.
I have a over 25 yr old (basicly trouble free, knock on wood) Rheem HVAC system on my house.
48 posted on 02/19/2016 8:07:53 AM PST by lewislynn (Ted Cruz: " I'll never have 'a plane with my name" …(or a Presidential seal))
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To: bert
...the actual cost increase is not so much in materials but in the seemingly endless rework of processes and systems.

Yes, for an increase in efficiency you'd be hard pressed to notice on you utility bill.

49 posted on 02/19/2016 8:18:15 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Behold, the king shall issue executive orders to accomplish this.


50 posted on 02/19/2016 8:19:26 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Diversity is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama sharing the same jail cell.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The article is illustrative of a weak economy country run by stupid people. When you have a country with no economic growth I don't care where the product is made or how cheap it is the sales will be lagging.

The only candidate that is preaching the right things to "make the country great again" is Trump.

Prosperity, and economic growth will cure all our ills.

Wrapping yourself in the armor of Christ isn't the answer this time.

51 posted on 02/19/2016 8:23:46 AM PST by lewislynn (Ted Cruz: " I'll never have 'a plane with my name" …(or a Presidential seal))
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To: lewislynn
I have a over 25 yr old (basicly trouble free, knock on wood) Rheem HVAC system on my house.

Very good. Rheem has a pretty good rep for residential equipment. At 25 years I would caution you to have the heat exchanger inspected by someone you trust (perhaps yourself if you can) to make sure there are not metal fatigue cracks developing. Carbon monoxide can be introduced into the air stream, bad juju.

52 posted on 02/19/2016 8:24:18 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: central_va

no, companies off shore because:

union work rules are too costly and promote a complete lack of productivity. they are designed to keep more union people on the payroll...

government regulations and fees are more costly than the tax rates....

now go back to your local union hall and tell them that you have failed in your attempt to try and push their agenda...


53 posted on 02/19/2016 8:46:06 AM PST by joe fonebone (gay people do not bother me.... fags do...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Despite receiving millions in federal support to create domestic green jobs.
With the move that puts them in the double dipper club and their products on the do not buy list failure to ensue.


54 posted on 02/19/2016 9:15:53 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: MileHi

Rheem has a pretty good rep for residential equipment. At 25 years I would caution you to have the heat exchanger inspected by someone you trust (perhaps yourself if you can) to make sure there are not metal fatigue cracks developing. Carbon monoxide can be introduced into the air stream, bad juju.


Of course that only applies if it’s a gas-fired heating unit.


55 posted on 02/19/2016 9:55:17 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: joe fonebone
Union work rules are too costly and promote a complete lack of productivity. they are designed to keep more union people on the payroll...

Since only 10% of the manufacturing workforce is unionized then you would be 90% wrong.

56 posted on 02/19/2016 10:06:28 AM PST by central_va
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To: joe fonebone
government regulations and fees are more costly than the tax rates..

BTW the Carrier CEO couldn't name one regulation that caused the shift to Mexico.

57 posted on 02/19/2016 10:11:24 AM PST by central_va
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To: chaosagent; lewislynn
Of course that only applies if it’s a gas-fired heating unit.

Good point, my comment assumes facts not in evidence.

58 posted on 02/19/2016 10:11:30 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Vinnie

When I see one of those damned “reinvestment and recovery” signs, my blood pressure spikes about 30 points.

Just seeing it.


59 posted on 02/19/2016 12:06:29 PM PST by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: central_va

Those are two different things, in my opinion, and I can readily understand why many people would view them quite differently.

Taxes are too high, the government takes your money by default. You have zero control over how your money is to be used to run your business. The way it should be done is to lower THAT corporate tax rate, and let you run your business as you see fit and invest money in your company in a way that works best for your company and employees, NOT what works best for what flunky POS politicians think is best.

Tax Credits have to be “requested” and approved with conditions to be met to be given back. I know I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know here...the government supposedly uses this as a carrot to get behavior and products that are in line with what the government wants, such as “green” BS. This borders on fascism. There are strings attached. As a business owner, you have to pay that money out in taxes with no recourse, and you have to go hat in hand to the government to get some portion of it back, making business decisions that the government wants you to make for their own reasons, not what is best for your company.

As we see, this tax credit money is also used to reward political allies.


60 posted on 02/19/2016 12:18:13 PM PST by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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