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Cruz Robocall Tells South Carolina Voters Confederate Flag is ‘Our Flag’
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Posted on 02/21/2016 7:28:52 AM PST by TigerClaws

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To: JJ_Folderol

Maybe Cruz should sue Trump.

Trump has fabricated untruths on numerous occasions.


41 posted on 02/21/2016 9:23:39 AM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Lagmeister

Yea, what we need are politicians who weasel and slime to our face, like Trump.

We know we can trust them (to weasel and slime to our face).


42 posted on 02/21/2016 9:24:54 AM PST by Echo4C (Let us not be so blinded by Nationalist rhetoric, that we miss the Socialist hiding behind it)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

....hippie fads are now in... Orange hair anyone??


43 posted on 02/21/2016 9:27:39 AM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: theoldmarine

Funny you mention Canada.Have long held that there is a thread of association with Canada that goes all the way back to the post US Revolution.

Post Articles of Confederation and the adoption of the Constitution, secession became a subject and subdued effort. With the beginning, in 1800 of the demise of the Federalists (the Hamiltonians if you like— the Central Banker party) and the rise of Thomas Jefferson and the Democratic-Republican party, impeaching Federalist judges etc— rumblings of secession began. By 1804, the Federalist’s power base was reduced to 3 states- MA, DE, and CT (sound familiar— the current “seat” of ultra leftie socialist/marxist liberalism and the corporate bankers HQ).
Timothy Pickering of Massachusetts and a few Federalists wanted to create a separate New England confederation, combining with lower Canada to form a new pro-British nation! The Hartford Convention in 1814 voiced all this, but the end of the War of 1812 slowed them up. These political alignments and anglo-philia persist to this day IMHO, by elitist demo-RINO WASP Progressives and Canadian Socialists (really the UK since Canada is a Commonwealth). The Brits are “still at it” —what they tried to do in the War of 1812— which, notably the Federalists were rabidly against (hence their beginnings of separation). Would contend the push by these same elitists for National Romney-obamaumaocare— modeled on the disastrous UK NHS and the equally failing Canadian version— is yet another extension of this “empire-loving” anglophilic Progressivism, with the handy benefit to the oligarchy of cost shifting healthcare onto the backs of the working people and forced taxation. Continued elimination of State’s Rights in this regard and others.

Later merchant oligarch expressions of secession were espoused by the next gestation of these Federalists— seizing on the issue of slavery as a premise or a “cause” to cover their real objectives: continuing the aristocracy and oligarchy through expansion in the West. The Texas Republic drove them crazy with concern and focus about this.

“Henceforth, the watchword of every uncompromising abolitionist, of every friend of God and liberty, must be, both in a religious and political sense — ‘NO UNION WITH SLAVEHOLDERS”— William Lloyd Garrison, abolitionist.

A study of the Founders, delineates the political divide that continued. Madison did not think the Constitution allowed secession, but southerners and many northerners— did.
“Only repeated, multiplied oppressions placing it beyond all doubt that their rulers had formed settled plans to deprive them of their liberties, could warrant the concerted resistance of the people against their government”—John Adams

The flag similarity to the Union Jack is somewhat noteworthy- but it is only one of the battle flags, not the southern country’s flag. Instead the linkage is far more sinister with Canada and the NE Progressive elites of the Uniparty. Of more concern is the greasy promotion of Hillary. Trump vs. Hillary does not do well at all nationally. Hillary as a criminal— will NOT be removed. Sanders is a flat out communist. We are being played.


44 posted on 02/21/2016 9:47:47 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Vaquero

Soros has a lot of enemies— surprised it hasn’t happened from say the Russian mob, or the House of Saud, in view of his meddling with Iran and obamaumao/jean kerry’.


45 posted on 02/21/2016 9:49:56 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Lopeover

It was a super PAC. If you recall Trump asked that candidates request super pacs disband and give the money back. He would not allow a super pack to be established in his name. Said he didn’t know the guy setting it up.


Super PACs coordinate with the campaigns before they are officially formed. They are hardly rogue operations. Career politican Cruz has signed off on this sleaze no doubt.


46 posted on 02/21/2016 9:53:10 AM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: pollywog
Your post 35- Good one. Just a few of the many, many Trump inconsistencies.

And here's a few standard Trump supporters responses:

"He didn't mean that." "He's just saying that to win." "It's going to be great."

47 posted on 02/21/2016 9:53:58 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: lodi90
Super PACs coordinate with the campaigns before they are officially formed. They are hardly rogue operations. Career politican Cruz has signed off on this sleaze no doubt.

So then Trump signed off on his super PACS before he told them to disband?

Sounds sleazy, greasy and dishonest.

48 posted on 02/21/2016 9:57:35 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: pollywog
I’m for returning illegals home...Talk about two faced!

Whom shall we believe? Sheriff Joe Arpaio - the gold standard on fighting illegals who backs Trump - or 'Glen the Becktist' who welcomes illegals with 'Teddy CRuz bears'?

49 posted on 02/21/2016 10:04:16 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Pajamajan

Exactly correct with the cellophane shield of saying “Trump is NOT beholden to special interests, lobbyists and PACs” To which, I would say, people need to consider just WHOM Trump employs as his OWN lobbyists— hmmm?

This “i’m not part of the establishment” crap is just that— he IS a definite wing of the establishment. And if one does not judge him on the basis of PAST history and highly malleable (to use Jimmy Carter’s description of Trump as the preferable candidate)opinions and support-— well then someone is fooling themselves. The very first delusion— “self delusion” and crowd (herd) dynamics. This is NOT over.


50 posted on 02/21/2016 10:07:28 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: FreeReign

So then Trump signed off on his super PACS before he told them to disband?


No, Trump told them to get lost. Cruz, OTOH, green lighted millions in anonymous, money laundered donations. Nothing principled or conservative about that. Sorry.


51 posted on 02/21/2016 10:10:43 AM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: Lagmeister
Whom shall we believe? Sheriff Joe Arpaio - the gold standard on fighting illegals who backs Trump - or 'Glen the Becktist' who welcomes illegals with 'Teddy CRuz bears'?

Believe Trump's own words about expediting them back. Believe Trump's own words about "legalizing them". Believe Trump's own words how he might consider even citizenship for them later.

And BTW, Cruz went back to DC after visiting the border and fought Obama's DACA amnesty. That's why he went to the border.

52 posted on 02/21/2016 10:12:09 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: TigerClaws

I don’t recall hearing that Cruz was a big defender of the Confederate flag. There have been numerous cases involving the Confederate flag, and Confederate monuments in TX, has he ever taken a stand against ongoing efforts to remove them?

I know Cruz did say that the issue of the Confederate flag in SC was for the people of SC to decide, but I didn’t hear him oppose removing it, so that is why this particular line of attack was so underhanded.


53 posted on 02/21/2016 10:15:56 AM PST by euram
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To: euram; MinuteGal

There is no time that Ted Cruz is speaking that I don’t see it as him speaking before a jury in a Court of Law. He always sounds like he is giving oral arguments. The dramatic pauses, the pacing back and forth, the argumentation, his presentation to the public is no different than his presentation to a jury in a case he is representing. Ted Cruz is just another shyster lawyer.


54 posted on 02/21/2016 10:29:33 AM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
What does that squirrel on Trumps head do!!!
55 posted on 02/21/2016 10:32:22 AM PST by ontap
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To: lodi90

Trump told his super PACs to get lost AFTER they were formed and after they were in operation. And as you said in your first post, super PACs coordinate with campaigns before they are officially formed.

So therefor, Trump signed off on his super PACS and then went out and criticized other people using super PACs. When he was finally called out on his hypocrisy, it was only then that he disbanded his super Pacs.

That's slippery, dishonest and hypocritical.

56 posted on 02/21/2016 10:34:33 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: euram
I know Cruz did say that the issue of the Confederate flag in SC was for the people of SC to decide, but I didn’t hear him oppose removing it, so that is why this particular line of attack was so underhanded.

There is no evidence that Cruz approved this robocall.

It's "underhanded" to suggest that he did.

57 posted on 02/21/2016 10:36:34 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: TigerClaws

Thanks for this Ted

It’s my flag too


58 posted on 02/21/2016 11:04:27 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: FreeReign
Sheriff Joe sees through CRuz's BS. Cruz runs his mouth and believes in self deportation, which is no deportation at all. All those deadbeat illegals on public assistance in sanctuary cities will stay right where they are with Cruz's blessing!

Expedite everyone back is a blatant lie by Cruz and his bots to cover Cruz's desire not to sent any illegal back. Trump wants them all sent back with quality professionals and exemplary students put to the front of the line.

But lie and distort all you want. Here is a hint, "Nobody is listening to you and nobody cares what you think."

59 posted on 02/21/2016 11:48:47 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: FreeReign

Cruz can’t dodge his PAC’s activity.


60 posted on 02/21/2016 11:49:36 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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