[Ray76]

> In the Constitution, a “natural born Citizen” means a citizen from birth with no need to go through naturalization proceedings.

There is no requirement that a “proceeding” take place, that oaths be taken, that there be conditions precedent or subsequent either or both - there is no such requirement that naturalization statutes incorporate any of these.

Naturalization statutes can and have incorporated various combinations of these at various times. It is the Congressional grant that is naturalization.

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[patlin]

If your citizenship is governed by the laws of immigration & naturalization, then yes, you are, for the purposes of A2,S1 of the Constitution, a naturalized citizen. If you are born, subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign nation, you are, according to the 14th & the 1965 immigration & naturalization act, a naturalized citizen.

And people wonder why out nation is going to hell in a hand basket, no one even knows the laws anymore, they only know what other people tell them it is, whether it be a teacher, professor, lawyer or political hack. sadly, in just two generations, the politically elite and their handlers, have so dumbed down the population at large, that common sense can scarcely be found.

[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

True. No statute passed by Congress has ANY BEARING ON THIS ISSUE AT ALL, and never can.