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Most Muslims aren’t jihadists, of course. But some of them are
National Post (Canada) ^ | 2016=01-27 | Barbara Kay

Posted on 03/15/2016 1:18:23 PM PDT by Clive

In the era when Communism was the big global threat, we used to be able to say, with impunity, that Marxism could exist without Communism but Communism would not exist without Marx; that fellow travellers in the West who purposefully infiltrated key political institutions in the service of the Communist revolution were a grave threat to democracy; and that informing the public about their methods was a civic duty, not hate speech against socialists.

Today it is the reverse. Islamism is the gravest global threat, but one is pilloried for saying the obvious: there can be an Islam without Islamism, but no Islamism without Islam. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalpost.com ...


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To: fhayek

All Moslems support Jihad. By the words in the Koran which ALL Moslems believe to be the Word of God and immutable Law, anyone who does not support Jihad is an infidel or apostate. Apostasy makes one an infidel. Al Moslems, therefore, support Jihad. A few claim to not support Jihad. They are either Not Moslems-apostates/infidels or they are engaged in mandated Koranic prevarication for purposes of Moslem advantage.


21 posted on 03/15/2016 1:45:53 PM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: amihow

Bit of a paraphrasing from Mao’s Little Read Book. “The people are the sea that the revolutionary swims in.”
But no less true.


22 posted on 03/15/2016 2:00:40 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Clive

Some are jihadists. Some will be jihadists. Some support jihadists. All support Sharia Law being imposed where they live.

None support American ideals and values as those are antithetical to Islam. They will use those ideals and values for their own purposes only.


23 posted on 03/15/2016 2:02:58 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And, they don’t have to be a very large percentage in order to have a lot of numbers.


24 posted on 03/15/2016 2:04:28 PM PDT by Parmy (I)
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To: fhayek
Most Muslims are not active jihadists, but I do believe that most Muslims are sympathetic, if not outright supporters of the more militant elements.

And they should be supporting the Jihadists.

If a Muslim looks closely at what Allah says and Muhammad confirms, you don't have to physically kill us Kafirs to get yourself into heaven.

The technical problem is; by going that route, that since Allah does what He wants, you might not make it to heaven for reasons known only to Allah.


If a Muslim dies fighting for Islam while killing us Kafirs they will get into heaven immediately regardless of their past behavior. That's what Allah said, and Muhammad confirmed.
The dead Jihadists won't have to wait for judgement day like the rest of the Muslims. They will immediately go to heaven.

Most Muslims choose following their religion in a less violent way than Jihad, and work to undermine us Kafirs to set up Sharia law.
Other Muslims opt for the immediate guaranteed Jihad route.
No Muslim should condemn them for that.
Some Muslim groups will practice Taqiyya and claim they don't like the Jihadists behavior, but that is to keep us naive Infidels off balance. - Tom

25 posted on 03/15/2016 2:05:30 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

One can’t BE a jihadist without being muslim.
At least I haven’t heard of any that were, if they
did they didn’t last very long.


26 posted on 03/15/2016 2:07:10 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Clive
Most People are not super-models, but some of them are.

Most People are not musically talented, but some of them are.

Most People are not serial killers, but some of them are.

27 posted on 03/15/2016 2:12:02 PM PDT by HypatiaTaught
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To: arthurus

Moslems are jihadists, believers in jihad at least, insofar as they are Moslems. At any given moment most Moslems are not, however, engaged in jihad.

*********

Even nominal Moslems are potential Jihadists. All that is needed is that they start to take their religion seriously.


28 posted on 03/15/2016 2:21:05 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: Capt. Tom

I tend to agree with you. To say that I do not trust Muslims would be an understatement.


29 posted on 03/15/2016 2:26:09 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: fhayek; Socon-Econ
I tend to agree with you. To say that I do not trust Muslims would be an understatement.

Muslims can't be trusted because as Socon-Econ said in the previous post , you never know when they are going to get religion.

Unfortunately our soldiers at Ft Hood found that out when Maj. Nidal Hassan decided to go on Jihad and started killing our soldiers, rather than shipping out where Hassan might be working against his religion's interest, and offending Allah. -Tom

30 posted on 03/15/2016 2:37:33 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Clive

It only takes one.


31 posted on 03/15/2016 3:27:23 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Clive
I have a revolver. All of the chambers aren't filled with cartridges, only one is. Go ahead and spin it, put it to your head, and pull the trigger.

It's something like that.

32 posted on 03/15/2016 3:30:38 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Clive
Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.

It is time to put an end to the charade of “moderate Islam.” There is no such thing as moderate Muslim. Muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists – moderate, they are not.

Ali Sini- ex Muslim, founder of Faith International

33 posted on 03/15/2016 3:53:12 PM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan ...(girl type))
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To: Williams

The only sane civilization in the history of the earth is Christian. You cant have it both ways - either Christ was the son of God and ascended to heaven or he didn’t. Islam was created to destroy Christianity. I can explain it for you but not understand it for you.


34 posted on 03/15/2016 4:18:50 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Obama say, 'no worries, Islam is peace. But the weather is gonna getcha!')
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To: HypatiaTaught

If there is the typical statistical bell curve for Muslims as your statements imply, let’s look at what that would have to mean.

Let’s just say that the violent jihadis are on the extreme left of the bell curve. In your make believe example, there would be a roughly equal percentage at the opposite end of the bell curve. They would be strenuously and loudly objecting to the violent ones and organizing themselves to suppress the violent ones.

Where are they? Are you going to say the worldwide media are hiding news of them? Or are you going to give up magical thinking before someone on that not-so-bell-shaped curve slits all our throats?


35 posted on 03/15/2016 4:33:46 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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