Posted on 03/21/2016 10:48:52 AM PDT by windhover
Anti Trump Infiltrators are moving into delegate positions in states Donald Trump has; either won by winner take all,or by proportionally awarded by percentage. This is being orchestrated by GOP County Chairmen, primarily in and out of County conventions. Rules differ by State and County with some delegates being appointed and others elected, so one size does not fit all cases. Here's the rub: Although all delegates are bound to vote for the delegates on the FIRST ballot. After that they can vote to change convention Rules and vote for any candidate you want. If you do not have a copy of the Convention Rules covering the Permanent Rules for 2012 and 2014, print a cop out! on the last page, see "RULE NO.42 Temporary Rules". This is the last rule in the document. It reads: " Upon the adoption of the report of the Convention Committee on Rules and Order of Business, Rule Nos. 26-42 shall constitute the Standing Rules for this convention, and the TEMPORARY RULES FOR THE NEXT CONVENTION (2016)." Bold print and parenthesis mine. This sort of maneuver is not new, but the only defense against it can only be done on the local. county, state level-where you live. We must jump in to this delegate selection process now, even if you support Cruz, or we could after 10 ballots and total war over seating legitimate delegates, find we have President Kasich.This move is planned and implemented by the desperate GOP National Establishment. Thank God. As I write this I here Rush saying the same. Please take this seriously and give all you can to prevent this. Print out the Convention Rules now and see for your self.
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Agreed.
Who are these people and how may they be contacted?
It appears to me the GOPe is trying to absolve themselves of responsibility for stealing.
We have four months of this BS, and I have all kinds of time.
Our house will do the same.
For several election cycles.
I am for Cruz #1 and Trump #2. But if Trump ends up with the most delegates, I have to say, he better end up with the nomination, as has happened in the past. Otherwise, there will be a lot of voters that won’t vote, I fear.
If Trump is nominated, I will vote for him and hope my concerns and fears are wrong and unwarranted. But, I, personally would like to see Cruz end up with more votes (I know, it’s a long shot especially with the tag-along staying in the race).
In many states, the candidates don't select the delegates - the state party does.
That is precisely where it would lead. A contested convention will be the death of the GOP, and a lock for the dummycrats across the board.
I think Trump will get to 1,237 with room to spare. The political class and MSM are doing two things with all these hypotheticals.
1) Trial ballooning how badly the GOP will implode if every dirty trick, including rewriting the rules at the 11th hour, is used to deny Trump. (Answer: Very badly.)
2) Generate clicks/subscriptions.
That’s it. In all likelihood, Cruz’s win in Utah will be spun as a “game changer” so hard it could power the globe, until a few days later when he gets crushed in WI and NY. From there on out, it’s over for him. He’ll be down into single digits by the time they get back to any states where he might have done favorably.
The Will/Lowry corollary to the Voltaire Principle:
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it, (unless, of course, it’s in support of Donald Trump.)”
Rules committee delegates can vote any way they feel like on rule changes. What’s to stop them from raising the first round nomination threshold to 55% or 60% - or whatever is just beyond Trump’s total at the end of the primaries?
You say adherence to principle and fair play would prevent this? Oh, really.
As I said previously, what kind of system is it that requires a majority on the first ballot, but throws out the principle of majority rule in succeeding rounds? If something is a principle, it endures. So, this must not be a principle at all, but, rather, an effort to simulate a belief in majority rule.
The GOP elites have taken over the Republican Party......they will have to fight "we the enlightened" over just whose party this is and who "we the enlightened" want for POTUS....clearly WTE do not want an insider to keep the status quo afloat as they so dearly do and are willing to throw the Republican Party over for the Socialist Hillary Clinton to achieve that end.....they are fighting for their way of $$$life$$$ not ours.
If Trump and Cruz would band together as Pres. & V.P, we could slam the door on the Washington Mafia for a long time. Two years for a Trump presidency and two years for a Cruz presidency...then another four years after that as Pres. and V.P. We need both their strengths....to right listing ship/nation.....come on Trump & Cruz if you love this country as you say you do, bury the Campaign hatchet and help America rid herself of these parasites! lfe, not ours!
I'm going to take your comment as a "joke" since that threatening crap is what leftists pull, as we've seen when they publish private information of people who own guns in the hopes that it will harm/shame them.
He certainly on track for first balloteers
After that it’s anybodys guess
Actually, the GOPe has already signed the GOP Death Certificate.
The GOPe has exposed itself as part of the DC Uni-Party.
Patriots, as mentioned in related threads, the political party presidential nominating conventions don’t respect the constitutionally enumerated procedure for electing a president.
”Article II, Section 1, Clause 2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.…
12th Amendment: The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; ..."
The bottom line concerning presidential nominating conventions is they are nothing more than made-for-TV, dog-and-pony shows to help the corrupt Washington cartel hold onto 10th Amendment-protected state powers that that corrupt feds have been stealing from the states since the end of the Civil War.
And state lawmakers are evidently a part of this corruption.
So what's the plan Stan? Simple: the GOP figures that in a 3-way (or even better, 4-way race), no one will reach 270 electoral votes.
You know where this goes next. When the House convenes, they elect the GOP nominee on the first ballot, even if he never reached a plurality. Say hello to president Bush III.
They say then it is *TRUMP WRITE IN*
GO TRUMP GO
I’m aware that some states have different rules for how delegates are selected. And I am still saying it is not ok for the state party or the national party to select delegates FOR a candidate. The delegates won by a candidate should be people who are actually supporters of that candidate. The delegates do more than pick the nominee. They vote on the party platform, for example. The delegates at the national convention should reflect the voters who voted in the party primary. Otherwise, the RNC is just wasting our time.
“At some point, that has to happen or else the convention rules have to be changed to allow the nominee to win with a plurality in later rounds. Otherwise, there could be an immovable log jam.”
Give the winner a cigar. The problem here is that some want the delegates for their favorite to be eternally bound while the delegates for other candidates to be free.
But the procedures for selecting delegates have been around for a lot longer than this election cycle. Whether you agree with them or not, the candidates should at least be aware of them, and know how to work them to their best advantage. Why do you think the Cruz campaign still has active organizations in the states that have already voted? To work to get his supporters selected as delegates, even if they are delegates committed to other candidates on the first ballot.
The end objective is not the party nomination, nor necessarily election night itself. The entire focus at this point by those interested in winning is how to get the House to vote their electors for the appropriate chosen winner.
Trump’s ability to pick his own delegates depends upon the state. Here in Alabama, you can vote for a candidate or you can vote for a delegate pledged to a specific candidate. It’s a ‘states rights thing’. Trump doesn’t get to write the rules.
BTW, in 2012, this website was filled with Ron Paul supporters who were scheming to select delegates that were secretly Paul supporters. These delegates had no intention of voting for anyone other than Paul regardless of the popular vote in their state. Was that right?
The RNC doesn’t get to cherry pick delegates. The state parties get to decide how their delegates will be selected. It varies by state. You do believe in “state rights” don’t you?
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