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Trump: If abortion is banned, there has to be some form of punishment
Hot Air.com ^ | March 30, 2016 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 03/30/2016 6:29:18 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: BlackElk
After Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he took to the radio waves (an extreme rarity in Japan where he was regarded as a "living god" to the Shinto religionists and ordered his people, each and every one, as their living god, to lay down their arms and surrender to the USA.

Salt Lake City's Living Prophet® is almost a god; if a person can believe what another high ranking Mormon has said:

In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

99.99% of Mormon will obey whatever HE says; too.

141 posted on 04/02/2016 3:39:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe; Normandy; StormPrepper

Sorry guys; I shoulda pinged you to the above.

Go ahead and give the truth as it’s been taught to you.


142 posted on 04/02/2016 3:41:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlackElk
We do punish usually the father and not the mother for involvement in creating a bastard child.

Now it's just mostly the taxpayers...



But it's for the chilrun...

143 posted on 04/02/2016 3:42:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlackElk
This system is designed to get the men to beg their friends to pay enough to get the man out of jail.

But his 'friends' are in the slammer as well!

144 posted on 04/02/2016 3:43:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlackElk
Let's forgive one sin, maybe two; but a time comes when STERILIZATION is the only answer.

Either that or STARVATION!

145 posted on 04/02/2016 3:45:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlackElk
I was able to find Professor Hunt's research paper but I don't know how to link.

Putting Http in front may create an address, but does NOT create a clickable link If there are ANY HTML commands in the rest of your text.

Go here to play in FR's sandbox.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/938739/posts

An awful lot of us FREEPERs cut our posting teeth in here!


I don't know how to post a link.
 
 
I don't <A href="WEB.ADDRESS">WHAT YOU WANT HIGHLIGHTED</A> to post a link.
 
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You do now!!

146 posted on 04/02/2016 3:55:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Objective Scrutator

I shudda read ahead!


147 posted on 04/02/2016 3:57:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LS
You cannot jail a man as an accessory to murder who hires someone to kill his wife, then let a woman walk free who conspires to kill her baby.

But we do...

148 posted on 04/02/2016 3:58:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Which 'christian' women?
The ones who say that their sins shouldn't be punished?

We don't punish "sins" in the United States, we punish crimes.

149 posted on 04/02/2016 4:18:07 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: Elsie
Make no mistake. I certainly do not regard Hirohito or any Japanese emperor from Jimmu Tenno forward to be anything vaguely resembling a god much less resembling the one and only God. That is the belief of the Shinto.

And though I have known and respected some very fine and moral people who are Mormons, I have never indulged the notion that "the prophet" speaks for anyone other than himself and a number of other LDS leaders, much less for God in anything, much less in everything. OTOH, people adhering to Shinto or to Mormonism are as entitled to their views as I am entitled to mine.

My Roman Catholic Faith leads me to believe in many things that the non-Catholic world finds strange: that Jesus Christ is present, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Holy Eucharist of my Church under the appearances of bread and wine or that, in matters of faith and morals, when speaking ex cathedra as pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church and consistent with its Teaching Magisterium, the pope is infallible ex officio. People are free to disagree or even ridicule such belief. I will nonetheless hold to them.

America is a great country at least partially because of its guarantees of our God-given rights to religious freedom, freedom of worship, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, RTKBA etc., my freedoms and everyone else's. How blessed we are to live here compared with so many other less fortunate folks elsewhere in human history!

I fully acknowledge that we owe these things to the foresight and wisdom and faith of the near unanimously Reformed Christians who founded this country and acknowledged its role in formally guaranteeing the rights given to us not by them but by God Himself. Those of us who are Catholic need to recognize and appreciate and applaud the fruit of the faiths of our Reformed fathers who founded this country.

150 posted on 04/02/2016 6:52:38 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Elsie
We who are Christians (of whatever denominational affiliation or none) are called by our Master to individual charity. See the rendition of St. Matthew in his Gospel of what Jesus Christ says at the Last Judgment. Inter alia: What you did for these, the least of my brethren, you did unto Me! We cannot demand their mutilation (sterilization) nor can we allow them to starve. Neither was a teaching of Jesus Christ.

There is also the passage where Jesus is approached by the somewhat smug young rich man who asks: What must I do, Lord, to be saved? Jesus answers: Take everything you have, give it to the poor, take up your cross and follow Me! That was a hard teaching and the young man walked away. People are still walking away. We are called to personal charity, not to organize Marxist governments to take our neighbors resources to give to the poor. WE must give to them and voluntarily. We ought not to encourage them to idleness nor encourage them to play us. We can teach them to fish rather than give fish away promiscuously but WE are called to individual charity according to our respective means.

Mother (soon to be Saint) Teresa of Calcutta did not require the poor to fill out welfare or Medicaid applications. She simply took her own personal resources (daughter of a family of Albanian millionaires) and those donated by others and relieved the misery of the poor.

None of us are perfect. Each and every one of us falls short of the glory of God. We must all strive to be more perfect than we are, knowing full well that we will never run out of opportunities for improvement.

May God bless you and yours!

151 posted on 04/02/2016 7:11:48 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
...I have never indulged the notion that "the prophet" speaks for anyone other than himself and a number of other LDS leaders...

Well THEY sure do!

And are anxiously awaiting any OTHER 'words from GOD'!

152 posted on 04/02/2016 3:55:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlackElk
My Roman Catholic Faith leads me to believe in many things that the non-Catholic world finds strange: that Jesus Christ is present, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Holy Eucharist of my Church under the appearances of bread and wine or that, in matters of faith and morals, when speaking ex cathedra as pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church and consistent with its Teaching Magisterium, the pope is infallible ex officio.

I'll not complain (too much ;^) that you do believe these things.

What I DO take umbrage at is Rome's insistence that I should as well.

153 posted on 04/02/2016 3:57:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I am an American. So are you. Neither of us MUST believe what the Vatican teaches ever, much less when the Church is being misgoverned by Bergoglio. If only Roman Catholics were admitted to heaven and no one else. it would be less than we imagine. God, my God and probably yours, is not the eternal tax accountant in the sky looking for gotchas to send as many as possible to, ummm, heck.

God exists. Heck exists and accommodates the souls of those whose actions and non-repentance led to their damnation. Depending on denomination or none, details may differ but God does not differ. He always was, always will be and always remains the same. As Creator, he is the anchor of our reality.

My mother's best friend was a very-old fashioned Methodist and probably the finest Christian woman whom I will ever have the joy of knowing. She did not believe in the Catholic Eucharistic dogmas or many other things separating her faith from mine. I cannot imagine her being anywhere but heaven. Not my call, of course, but her absence from heaven would come as a real shocker to this Catholic. You never know but there may be (let's keep this to ourselves) Latter Day Saints in heaven as well. Again, not my call but it is possible.

Also, the late great Bshop Fulton Sheen was fond of saying that, if everything that its opponents say about Catholicism were true, Bishop Sheen would not have continued being Catholic either. For a treat, read his The Life of Christ.

Go bless!

154 posted on 04/03/2016 4:23:46 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Elsie

Well, whatever the differences between thee and me on this or that point of theology, we CAN agree that THEY are wrong. Many of them quite fine and decent folks but wrong nonetheless.


155 posted on 04/03/2016 4:29:52 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk
Many of them quite fine and decent folks but wrong nonetheless.

The same can be said of Muslims, Hindus, Wiccans, Presbyterians (Well; not THEM: Joseph Smith said they are just WRONG!; period!)

156 posted on 04/03/2016 3:17:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlackElk

sorry i didnt back sooner...i had just been reading articles lately...i’m with you...FR is one of the most unique and useful websites for conservatives...

trashing and demaining others for their views is counterproductive...it will only serve to increase that kinda comments...and drive reasonalble ppl away

...but i still read the comments...it is like taking the pulse of pplz thinking...whether you are agree or not...or if I just dont like the way they state their views...

thx for nice reply...


157 posted on 04/05/2016 7:35:46 AM PDT by fingers_crossed
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