[BlackElk]

We indulge a polite fiction that the women are always the second victim. I have never heard anyone argue that the woman is as innocent as the baby or should be treated equally with the baby as a victim, except in the rare cases of literally forced abortions.

If a woman is genuinely out of her mind on this, that would be a legal defense of mental incapacity to commit the crime.

[chris37]

No, no, I meant that some women, such as those who would wear a shirt proudly proclaiming their abortion, are not someone that I would consider to be a victim.

They clearly seem to be an active, willing and proud participant in something that under no conceivable circumstance should ever be celebrated.

I think each case should be handled on a case by case basis with the proper authorities deciding the best course of action for each involved party.

Everyone does not need to receive a mandatory minimum or anything like that.

But I think to hold a single party responsible, the abortionist, and to give all others involved, meaning the parents of the baby, a pass I don’t think is fair or just.