Posted on 04/12/2016 4:48:11 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
“New.Jersey. Says it all. Not surprising.”
Right. How stupid are the people of New Jersey?
I think you’ll find very few people who believe that a 3 year old who then lived in the U.S. for the next 42 years had divided loyalties as an infant.
The Founders were concerned about ADULTS from Great Britain trying to reestablish the monarchy.
Its not “the people”1 of any state who make these rulings, its one judge or a small group of appointed people sitting on an elections board
Cruz Eligibility Rulings Thus Far:
Arkansas (Librace v Cruz) dismissed
Florida (Voeltz v Cruz) dismissed
Illinois Election Board, ruled eligible
Indiana Election Commission (Cruz), ruled eligible.
New Hampshire Ballot Commission, ruled eligible
New Jersey (Williams v Cruz), ruled eligible
New York (Korman & Gallo v Cruz) dismissed
Pennsylvania (Elliott v Cruz) Cruz ruled eligible
Utah (Wagner v Cruz) dismissed, appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.
Obama told us he was born a British Subject.
Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?
Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009, happened with the complete cooperation of both parties.
They want the Constitution changed without the hassle of amending the Constitution.
Confuse people about the clear meaning of a three word phrase and voila, every anchor baby and Winston Churchill is eligible.
The bench was the reason the GOP went along with the fig leaf resolution for McCain that was used by the Democrats as cover for Obama.
Jindal, Rubio, Haley and Cruz were all up and comers and the future of the party and ineligible.
Judges in five other states plus appointed citizens on elections boards in three states ruled the exact same way as the New Jersey judge.
And I'm sure the same judge thinks that two men can get married.
We are living in Idiocracy. This is just another manifestation of it.
The early Presidents not born in America agree.
How can the judge make a decision without seeing all the facts ie. Cruz’s sealed records. There must be something in them that would disqualify Cruz.
Wow. Lots of things to remember to figure out what "natural" means. And I bet that list is subject to change every time congress gets a new hair up it's @$$.
Funny, I always thought only a constitutional amendment could change a constitutional requirement. Didn't know congress could do it with a vote.
You don't "understand correctly" (Whether honestly or from those that suffer from an the inability of Trumpers to recognize ANYthing that doesn't fit the Trump narrative, I can't say.)
Canada is a DUAL CITIZENSHIP country. Ergo, when he was born, he held DUAL citizenship.
He didn't 'become" a US citizen in 2011 - but gave up his Canadian citizenship.
It's really quite simple, for those who can lay their blinders aside for a moment.
I bet even half of all Canadian citizens could run a campaign better than Trump.
Yeah. Just like "gay marriage"! Won't these people ever learn that the law means whatever the latest kook liberal judges say it means?
Presidents Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, John Quincy Adams, and Jackson were all born British subjects. None of them was a natural born citizen and they got grandfatered in under the exception in Article II Section 1. They turned out all right!
The first Naturalization Act passed by the first Congress in 1790 included the following exception: “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States”.
Which was repealed when they realized their error.
This is good. This means Trump can consider him for VP, if Cruz can mend those fences.
They never define what natural born citizen means!
The law is based on the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment which is a corollary to Article II, Section 1. They fit together nicely: anyone who is a Citizen of the United States At Birth under the 14th Amendment is also a natural born citizen under Article II, Section 1.
As a judge in Pennsylvania ruled in March in a trial on the merits: “Having extensively reviewed all articles cited in this opinion, as well as many others, this Court holds, consistent with the common law precedent and statutory history, that a ‘natural born citizen’ includes any person who is a United States citizen from birth,”—Elliott v Cruz,
Framers defined natural born as a person born to parents both of whom were citizens. I guess judges can interpret the Constitution any way they want to!
This is Outrageous!! The people of Colorado were never given a chance to vote on this. just some GOPe, establishment RINO, CFR Goldman Sachs loving judge
I have far less concern over Ted Cruz's loyalty to the nation than I do for that ineligible affirmative action fool who's been pretending to be a President for the last 8 years. (and botching it worse than his critics could have ever dreamed.)
The founders set forth a standard that is not perfect in determining loyalty, but will generally yield a superior result than what would be obtained from the members of the out group.
They did the best they could to impart the salient aspect of it, but the problem with law is that you have to write it down, and thereby it often ends up as a caricature of it's original purpose.
The 14th amendment, for example, now looks like a "Transgender" version of a law that started out as one thing, but has now become a made-up, high heeled, monstrosity of itself.
People have forgotten how things get warped over the years, and especially with the application of "living constitution" logic.
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