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Why GOP nominee Ted Cruz should worry 2016 Republicans, too (GOP Plan to Backstab Cruz 2nd Ballot)
WaPo ^ | April 6 | Amber Phillips

Posted on 04/13/2016 6:37:23 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins

If you look at the states Cruz won versus the states Trump won from an Electoral College standpoint, it currently looks like this:

Cruz 87
Trump 211

After NY, PA, MD, DE and CT (which Trump is leading big) the “hypothetical” Electoral College results will look like:

Cruz 87
Trump 280

Realistically Cruz doesn’t have a viable shot. Yes he’s doing OK in perhaps keeping Trump from 1,237 on the first ballot, but there won’t be a second ballot. Either Trump wins 1,237 on his own by June 7, or he’ll cut the VP deal with either Kasich or Rubio, which puts his magic number between 1,000 and 1,100. Trump reaches that threshold easily.

This race in my view is not over, but I do think the outcome has been determined.


41 posted on 04/13/2016 6:59:52 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Nonetheless, that IS THE ARGUMENT that the GOP-E just launched subtly against Ted Cruz.

It is a signal that they will backstab him at the convention.


42 posted on 04/13/2016 7:01:18 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: Happy Rain


You are delusional.
43 posted on 04/13/2016 7:01:26 AM PDT by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: dartuser

The NY poll is so overwhelming opposed to Cruz that it’s safe to say that Cruz is already mathematically eliminated.


44 posted on 04/13/2016 7:02:52 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

How is that a myth, we see the election results, But for Cross-over dems in Wis (shows they feared Trump not Cruz) he pulls from a tiny segment of slow learning conservatives.


45 posted on 04/13/2016 7:02:54 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz and the Establishment is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: HLPhat
Please stop confusing the Trumproids with facts.

heh.

Trump and Cruz delegates will be in full control of the convention. The ruling class may not even get a ticket to it.

In the end...they will make the rules...and the shotgun wedding will be performed.

Trump/Cruz.

Which is what most of us wanted in the first place.

We just like doing things the hard way.

Jedi.

46 posted on 04/13/2016 7:04:56 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: xzins
I know that when I want advice on what Rupublicans should do to win elections, I consult the Washington Post.

Do I really need a </sarcasm> tag?

47 posted on 04/13/2016 7:04:58 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: dartuser

Let Trump get out. If he can’t get to 50%, he lost.


48 posted on 04/13/2016 7:05:43 AM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: dartuser

Cruz has made the cynical decision that he would rather take the miniscule chance that the GOPe would hand him the nomination on subsequent ballots, understanding that it is far more likely that the GOPe will nominate one of their own and undoing the will of the vast majority of GOP primary voters. To me, that level of ambition renders him unfit for the office of the President.


49 posted on 04/13/2016 7:06:42 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: BlueStateRightist; dirtboy
I’m a supporter of Ted Cruz. Ted is a big boy. He seems intelligent. If he loses after all is said and done I won’t feel bad for him. He sank based on his strategy.

Well said. I haven't been a big fan of Ted's change in tactics, i.e. getting in the tar pit with Trump, but his strategy has him going to the convention as the #2.

He's making Trump a better candidate, as evidenced by Trump hiring Manafort.

Trump needs Cruz to stay in, no one else is offering him any serious competition.

50 posted on 04/13/2016 7:07:18 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: xzins

The GOPe hate Cruz too. He’s just useful for them at this time.


51 posted on 04/13/2016 7:07:57 AM PDT by boycott (--s)
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To: Dr.Deth

Actually, the Washington Post is a good way to measure what establishment republicans are actually thinking.

The paper is establishment, and the rinos are establishment, so I see no contradiction at all.


52 posted on 04/13/2016 7:07:59 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: JEDI4S
Trump and Cruz delegates will be in full control of the convention. The ruling class may not even get a ticket to it.

See "Mississippi" and get back to us. The GOPe will resort to every dirty trick in the book and will also write new chapters for that book.

53 posted on 04/13/2016 7:08:08 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Mechanicos

It’s not a myth that Repubs need to water it down to win? To be apologetic half-Dems to win? Yeah; that’s worked real well over the last 30 years.


54 posted on 04/13/2016 7:08:37 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: plewis1250

Ya left off the last point...

“BUT. Trump is a complete wildcard; Cruz isn’t.”

“Aside from unannounced weekend work or the occasional government shutdown, they know what they’re getting from Cruz. He is a politician who has demonstrated that he can stick to his principles and navigate politically sticky situations with as much deftness as the next candidate.

Republicans, by contrast, have no idea what they’re getting with Trump. One day he’s suggesting Muslims be banned from the country, the next he’s retweeting a quote from Mussolini, the next his campaign manager is getting charged with battery for allegedly grabbing a reporter’s arm and bruising her.”
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Laughably ridiculous commentary, because Cruz will not this year or any other year be Prez. He can’t win FL and OH, therefore he has no path to White House.

It’s true, the “fix is in” party may appoint Cruz as the sacrificial lamb destined to lose against Hillary, losing, but preserving what they value the most, power to limit our choice of candidates to only GoPe uniparty types. This is where the corruption lies, in the primary process where general election rules don’t apply, Trump has exposed it.

Republicans know exactly what they are getting with Trump, the loss of POWER in picking a nominee, the power Trump voters are ripping from their grasp, the power they need to protect their positions of entitlement in the uniparty.

A bigger threat to them than a Hillary presidency. And why you see them hitting Trump harder than they ever did Obama.

Yes he’s a risk, but not a greater risk than Hillary, or some appointed GoPe type, who also cannot win FL and OH.

Plus>

A Cruz nomination, means GoPe wins, Hillary wins, and we lose.


55 posted on 04/13/2016 7:10:17 AM PDT by QuigleyDU
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To: Night Hides Not
He's making Trump a better candidate, as evidenced by Trump hiring Manafort.

I'm no fan of Ted Cruz, but your statement here is undeniably correct.

Last night, Trump referenced an upcoming speech on "unity" and I am ready to hear it.

He's got populist support, but he's still going to need the establishment machinery to defeat Hillary. We're going to need all hands on deck.

56 posted on 04/13/2016 7:11:55 AM PDT by TontoKowalski (")
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To: xzins

Thanks for the info!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3420451/posts?page=22#22

The figures don’t lie

But the liars (e.g. teddy) figure...

Vote TRUMP!


57 posted on 04/13/2016 7:12:12 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: boycott

Yep.

And he does NOT have enough delegates.

So, they have clear justification NOT to support him. That will be their argument. “He didn’t have enough delegates.”

That’s all they need to say.


58 posted on 04/13/2016 7:12:42 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: plewis1250

The funny thing is, ONE candidate is pulling together a coalition of delegates and supporters.///

What about voters?


59 posted on 04/13/2016 7:13:05 AM PDT by Ceebass ( Ted Cruz = Thad Cochran)
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To: xzins

You posted a week old nothing burger?


60 posted on 04/13/2016 7:15:34 AM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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