No, I'll leave that to FR's search feature. You can read them: Thread after thread of swordmaker posting one Apple talking point after another.
Posted on 04/14/2016 2:13:22 PM PDT by Swordmaker
If you’re going to call Swordmaker a liar, best you’d quote exactly where he “claimed it was ‘impossible’”.
The headline was stet the way it was published. I to lazy to retype the entire thing in upper and lower case format. Perhaps it deserves being shouted from the rooftops?
it was long ago shredded. . .
On NAND memory, it does. There are no remnants left like you would find on magnetic memory media. No shadows left from old magnetic domains, even with overwriting. Apple's system actually wipes the memory back to factory clean. Even if Apple did not use a clean wipe in their erase routines, the quick erase method of deleting the encryption keys is just as good because trying to brute force a 256 bit AES encryption will take more time than the Universe has left before it dies from a heat death before you will get even a third of the way through all the possible keys.
Since nothing from the previous six weeks before the attack had been backed up to iCloud, nothing from that time period was on the iCloud records that Apple handed over to the FBI pursuant to a search warrant served on Apple back in December. Those things would still be on the iPhone if those data were not erased.
It turns out that this phone was not with them during the attack. It was found in a Lexus sedan in parked on the street in front of their apartment. . . not, as originally reported, in the Lexus SUB that was shot up during the shoot out where they both died. It was never with them during the attack. They left it behind.
It is possible he had it with him when he went to the party earlier, before he left to go change into his required, nifty all black Jihadi attack outfit with all the straps, pockets, and attack gear. . .
But fear not folks, Martha Stewart is in check.
So they say.
> Quit making false statements of fact. YOU ARE A LIAR!
Yes, yes... but Code Toad has been lying like that about you and Apple for so long, so consistently, and with such maniacal fervor, you just HAVE to admire her persistence.
Or whatever you'd call it... I think she claimed to be a programmer or similar. Consider -that- some time...
In a way, I do. . . just not with the sense of humor that Baron Dennis Won Munchausen brings to the table. . . she just has a meanness about her.
I rather doubt that, given the confirmed reports of the 9/11 hijackers drinking (prohibited by Islamic law) and cavorting at titty bars before the attack.
“Apple never claimed cracking that model of phone running that OS with that feature enabled was impossible.”
Swordmaker said it was. Go read his posts on the subject. He posted page after page of Apple talking points and he proclaimed it was “impossible”.
No, I'll leave that to FR's search feature. You can read them: Thread after thread of swordmaker posting one Apple talking point after another.
Well, what else would we expect from a liberal company like Apple but their social media trolls to lie and then lie about lying? Alinsky tactics.
You accused him of lying, not of “talking points”.
Back it up or be guilty of libel.
Liar.
I did post what Apple stated about the security built in to the iPhone 5C and the Crypto Engine along with the iOS installed in the phone as reported. I did not say it was impossible to crack.
I did say it was impossible to break the 256 bit AES encryption by brute force or any other known means which we have today or that are on our mathematical horizon, which I qualified every single time I stated that. . . and it is. I still stand by that. CodeToad the LIAR always conflates that into me saying it is impossible to hack the iPhone 5C. As for that, I even suggested a means to hack into the iPhone that, although extremely difficult, might work.
You also do not know that AES cannot be decrypted. You are not a mathematics, computer science, nor cryptology expert. You merely repost nonsense found on the Internet and Apple talking points.
Please show in the article you linked to that I said ANYTHING about the iPhone 5c and iOS 7 being unbreakable. Here is what I truthfully said in a reply to another Freeper in that article you linked, which is titled "Apple can't decrypt your iPhone: Why it matters", which was published in MacWorld, on November 3, 2015:
Of course they can. If they couldn't do it, they would have told the judge that, and avoided the expensive legal battle. Instead, they said they wouldn't do it (in that case).No, you are wrong about what Apple told the judge.
Apple actually told the judge that they could not unlock or decipher the more than 90% of iOS devices that are currently using iOS 8 and iOS 9, but they can unlock the less than 10% of iOS devices that are still using iOS 7 or lower. That is not the same as saying "of course they can unlock all iOS devices," as you claim.
They did say that they would not unlock the older devices (which this case did involve) because that would make a differentiation between Apple customers who had opted not to upgrade to the newer iOS. It would also set a bad precedent that the government could require a third party to expend time and money to serve the government's interests, when the government had not shown there was anything on the device of probative value, and they were merely wanting to go on a fishing expedition.
10 posted on 11/03/2015 3:53:29 PM PST by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
I also made this comment to the same Freeper:
Of course they can. If they couldn't do it, they would have told the judge that, and avoided the expensive legal battle. Instead, they said they wouldn't do it (in that case).
Apple might have just scored some points with users but might have also further cemented the government's stance against encrypted devices. Responding to a Brooklyn federal judge's request for input, Apple revealed that it is impossible for it to unlock an iPhone or an iPad running iOS 8 or later due to stronger encryption methods. That said, it does admit that it can technically unlock devices running an older version, including the one involved in a current court proceeding, but advises the judge not to open that can of worms. SOURCE
13 posted on 11/03/2015 4:10:44 PM PST by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
Exactly where do I say it is impossible to unlock the iPhone 5C, which was released with iOS 7, running an older Processor than the ones being discussed in this entire article? Please, oh please, show us all this statement you claim is in this thread which you say is a LIE and which you claim the entire article is about a LIE! It looks to me to be a very nuanced article claiming just the opposite of what the LIAR that YOU ARE claims is an absolute! Making you a LIAR.
Additionally, please show that the FBI cracked 256 bit AES encryption. You also have not one whit of an idea what level of math i know or what I have done with it. Economists have to be mathematicians and statisticians. You obviously have never done anywhere near the math that I have done on this site, for example calculating the momentum carried by the 747 involved in the Flight TWA-800 incident (I tutored in Physics in college), or using those calculations to propose an alternative timeline in that incident which actually accounted for the evidence and accurately predicted exactly where the wreck pieces fell.. . . and, frankly, I don't see many others even attempting it.
So yes, I do know what enough of am talking about in math to read the technical papers on the state of the art of the Advanced Encryption Standard (AES), but YOU, CodeToad, have no clue and can only stand on the sidelines and throw feces and brickbats, and write graffiti on the threads.
Now, again, you obfuscate what you are claiming by limiting your statement into a strawman so you can make it true. You say that "You also do not know that AES cannot be decrypted." You don't know what you are talking about but you raise a question that is a mealy-mouthed strawman.
AES with low bit keys CAN be decrypted. . . but NOT 256 bit AES which is what I have always been discussing and have always been careful to specify and also which Apple uses on its iOS devices.
Our government and Financial institutions use 128 bit AES encryption for most applications because it is fast and "good enough". . . but I know your game. . . You'll point to some article that claims that AES 64 bit has been broken and say "Swordmaker, is lying about AES being unbreakable!"
This makes you a conscious and intentional LIAR!
Good Lord, Code Toad, do you have any idea how foolish and ignorant of facts you sound? There's no evidence the FBI or their contractor actually "decrypted" Apple's AES encryption. They "broke into the phone". There are numerous possible angles to "breaking into the phone" that do not require breaking the AES encryption.
Consider -- if AES was indeed cracked in this endeavor, it would be a HUGE FREAKIN' BIG DEAL all over the world. Cryptographers would be losing their minds over it. Technical articles and papers would be flying off the presses. What do you hear instead?
Crickets, Code Toad. Crickets. Why? Because your supposition and accusation are false.
I must say, your repeated slanderous comments about a fellow FReeper have become monumentally tiresome and boring. You chose to pick a fight you cannot win, because -- for the most part -- your accusations are demonstrably false; those that are not obviously untrue are at best just chaff, not provably right nor wrong.
You are welcome to post your opinion of events, situations, and so forth, of course. Have at. But your continual personal attacks against your fellow FReeper Swordmaker are uncalled-for, and unworthy of -- not to mention counter to the rules of -- this forum, in my opinion. I've take issue with Swordmaker about some things in the past, but I like to think I did so based on a discussion of facts, not personal invective.
Surely you have more to offer the rest of us than your present stream of garbage. I look forward to reading future comments from you that are more informative and interesting.
I hope you have a great evening, and feel better in the morning.
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