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To: SeekAndFind

Just a slip and fall lawyer who wants a name for himself, even if he’s wrong.
This is a classic case of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Looney to think a child of a citizen isn’t really a citizen at all.


29 posted on 04/22/2016 10:44:57 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: lucky american

If his mother was still a US citizen, she could pass citizenship. That does not make him a natural born citizen.
His foreign national father and foreign birth gave him divided loyalties and multiple citizenships.
natural born citizen is an exclusionary term, that was the purpose of using it rather than simply citizen.
Natuarlly a US citizen because one cannot be anything else.
Born here of citizen parents.


32 posted on 04/22/2016 10:51:42 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: lucky american
Looney to think a child of a citizen isn’t really a citizen at all.

It is not loony at all. What's loony is thinking that any citizen can go anywhere in the world, assume a second citizenship or not, settle outside America and have a child with a foreigner and without even filing papers with the American Consulate or State Department have their child declared a citizen. That is not only loony its loopy.

It sure didn't work for the children of American citizens in Vietnam. How can you be 1/2 American & not a Citizen

If it was so cut and dried we wouldn't have pages of Naturalization statutes declaring who was and who wasn't eligible for citizenship. Naturalization statutes do not confer natural born citizenship in any case, only citizenship, at birth or later in life.

73 posted on 04/22/2016 12:51:31 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: lucky american; SeekAndFind

What’s even loonier (or perhaps deceitful, as well as ignorant)is to think or pretend to think that “Citizen” and “Natural Born Citizen” are the same thing.

And who knows what citizenship Cruz’ mother had at the time he was born anyway. No one knows unless and until he gives in to the FOI requests and releases his and his mother’s citizenship documents; he won’t make public anything except her US birth certificate and his Canadian birth certificate.

Or unless a courty demands that he release them in order to make an actual judgement based on evidence and SCOTUS precedent.


99 posted on 04/22/2016 4:44:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: lucky american

“This is a classic case of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Looney to think a child of a citizen isn’t really a citizen at all.”

That remark of yours demonstrates you are some kind of willfully ignorant and blithering idiot to disregard the historical fact that the U.S. Supreme Court decided persons born abroad with TWO U.S. CITIZEN PARENTS were born without ANY U.S. citizenship whatsoever. LET ME REPEAT THAT TO GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL!!! THEY WERE BORN WITH NO U.S. CITIZENSHIP in the periods when there was no U.S. Naturalization Act in effect to grant them NATURALIZED U.S. CITIZENSHIP! That’s NO U.S. CITIZENSHIP, nada, none, zero U.S. citizenship. Now, you and the corrupt and/or incompetent justices in the courts of law can repeat the lies over and over and over again to infinity without changing the historical fact natural born citizenship has never been inherited from citizen parents by children born abroad in English, British, British American, or U.S. law during the last millennia without the protection of diplomatic immunity. So, please stop propagating bald faced lies in defiance of the historical record.


256 posted on 04/30/2016 2:45:47 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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