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Trump on climate: He's even worse than we thought
Mashable ^ | May 27, 2016 | Andrew Freedman

Posted on 05/27/2016 5:13:36 AM PDT by detective

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To: detective

You know, I actually liked Christie a lot. But, he was in the tank on globull warming. I could never support him, for that reason alone.

I don’t like quite a lot of things about Trump. But, on the most important things to me (immigration, climate change, SCOTUS), Trump is absolutely the best.

This is going to be a really fun campaign season.


21 posted on 05/27/2016 5:30:42 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: Gaffer
“suddenly pivot to the left on global warming...
I am at a loss how his speech was a turn to the ‘left’. Please explain.”

The complete quote:

“No one expected Donald Trump to give a single energy speech and suddenly pivot to the left on global warming, after a record of expressing skepticism that global warming exists on several prior occasions.

However, few of even the most die-hard, wary environmentalists likely expected what they got on Thursday, when Trump both effectively clinched the nomination and gave a dismissive energy speech in North Dakota.

The speech amounted to a broadside against the Obama administration's climate and energy policies, as well as Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton's proposals, in addition to climate science and energy market realities.”

The author is a supporter of climate change fraud. He said no one expected Donald Trump to pivot to the left given Trump's record. But even he was shocked at how Trump criticized the Climate Change ideology and Obama’s actions on climate change.

The speech was not a pivot to the left. It was the exact opposite.

22 posted on 05/27/2016 5:35:17 AM PDT by detective
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To: katana

“The stupid is strong in this one.”

I agree. And the fear of Trump is even stronger.


23 posted on 05/27/2016 5:36:40 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective

So I guess they are saying Trump is more powerful than the forces of nature...hmmm I like that. Trump should use it.


24 posted on 05/27/2016 5:38:22 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: detective

Praying that President Trump issues an Executive Order decriminalizing incandescent light bulbs.


25 posted on 05/27/2016 5:40:11 AM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: detective

Hopefully he’d create a camp where climate change proponents and globull warming proponents would be sent for re-education.


26 posted on 05/27/2016 5:40:31 AM PDT by SkyDancer
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To: detective

Just reading the headline I thought oh boy, how far left did he go? What did he say?
Of course it’s horrible for the left! Go trump GO!


27 posted on 05/27/2016 5:41:15 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: FourtySeven
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28 posted on 05/27/2016 5:42:18 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: jsanders2001
Bet the results would be far different than the government funded scientists whose living depends on it would come up with.

Almost all basic research--that is, research whose goal is to learn more about the world we live in, and is not focused on developing a commercial product--is funded by the government.

The problem is not the government funding. The problem is that some politicians have latched onto "anthropogenic global warming" (AGW) as a means to impose totalitarian socialism after every other attempt to create an all-powerful government has failed. That is, they think that people who won't accept dictatorship on its own merits will accept it if it means "saving the planet." And those politicians control the purse strings.

Scientists are not dumb, and many of them have made the calculation that tying their research to "AGW" will give them an edge when it comes to procuring funding. So, even scientists whose work has absolutely nothing to do with climate study throw in some stock statement that the phenomenon they observed could be a result of "AGW", right after they list the factors that they really do think are causative, whenever they write or talk about their work. This results in a situation where just about everything observable is attributed to "climate change," and there are thousands of papers that "prove" it--when, really, the actual evidence for human-caused climate change is as scant as it was fifty years ago.

As a scientist, I want to scream every time I see the phrase "because of climate change." It means that the problem under study is being dismissed before any real cause has been found, and thus no solution is forthcoming. I hope that under Trump's leadership, this intellectual laziness will stop.

29 posted on 05/27/2016 5:44:42 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: katana

Yeah, but Andrew was a good boy, dontcha’ know?


30 posted on 05/27/2016 5:45:15 AM PDT by jennings2004 ("What difference, at this point, does it make!"! Senator Cruz: Canadian from birth to May, 2014!)
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To: Gaffer
-- I am at a loss how his speech was a turn to the 'left'. Please explain. --

Piling on to the explanations you've already been given. A reverse analogy for the thought structure presented by the author.

No one expected Obama to be a conservative, but conservatives were surprised at how far Obama went (the other way).

31 posted on 05/27/2016 5:47:33 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: exDemMom

Oh I never thought scientists were dumb. As someone who does quite a bit of research myself I know how easily “findings”can be skewed if the person conducting the investigations makes up their mind on what the solution or causation of a particular problem is and then begins assimilating evidence UNobjectively to “prove” their “theory”. It’s referred to as the Burchell Syndrome in the investigative industry and it has put a lot of innocent people in prison. I think people forget how falllible humans can be even when they wear the badge of expert which I consider to be a misnomer for experienced who can always be wrong still, of course.


32 posted on 05/27/2016 5:51:50 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: exDemMom

Oh I never thought scientists were dumb. As someone who does quite a bit of research myself I know how easily “findings”can be skewed if the person conducting the investigations makes up their mind on what the solution or causation of a particular problem is and then begins assimilating evidence UNobjectively to “prove” their “theory”. It’s referred to as the Burchell Syndrome in the investigative industry and it has put a lot of innocent people in prison. I think people forget how falllible humans can be even when they wear the badge of expert which I consider to be a misnomer for experienced who can always be wrong still, of course.


33 posted on 05/27/2016 5:51:50 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: detective

“worse” if your business plan includes $billions in subsidies for wind farms and electric vehicles.

Probably better if you’re in a 3rd world country that will be greatly improved with electricity. Trump may destroy the global group of thugs keeping your country from making progress.


34 posted on 05/27/2016 5:51:57 AM PDT by LostPassword
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To: ronnie raygun
> global warming climate change is a scam to bilk tax payer American money to the UN to fund third world nations and pocket some also, f them all

Ronnie I think your raygun is on target...lol

36 posted on 05/27/2016 5:53:20 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: yuleeyahoo

Trump should promise to prosecute all the “climate change” hoaxers.

$Billions has been spent on this fraud.

As an engineer, I know this was proven a hoax when the East Anglia University got caught faking their data

http://www.conservapedia.com/Climategate

Yes prosecute for fraudulently spending money on a hoax.


37 posted on 05/27/2016 5:53:49 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: detective
The Climate Change fraudsters can see their government scam money drying up with a Trump administration and they don't like it.


38 posted on 05/27/2016 5:55:21 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Were Rebublicans 50 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: HotKat
> Praying that President Trump issues an Executive Order decriminalizing incandescent light bulbs.

Yeah it would be nice to be able to actually see again instead of these fake poser bulbs where you have to guess how bright they are by their "lumens rating". Also bulbs that don't costv3times what they used to.

39 posted on 05/27/2016 5:57:00 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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40 posted on 05/27/2016 5:57:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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