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High court strikes limits drunk driving test laws
Associated Press ^ | Jun 23, 10:35 AM EDT | SAM HANANEL

Posted on 06/23/2016 7:59:56 AM PDT by rarestia

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court on Thursday placed new limits on state laws that make it a crime for motorists suspected of drunken driving to refuse alcohol tests.

The justices ruled that police must obtain a search warrant before requiring drivers to take blood alcohol tests, but not breath tests, which the court considers less intrusive.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloodalcohol; breathtest; scotus; scotusdui; scotusdwi
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1 posted on 06/23/2016 7:59:56 AM PDT by rarestia
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I have a problem with this. You’re being forced to provide evidence that could incriminate you. So much for the 5th amendment.


2 posted on 06/23/2016 8:00:33 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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Here in Indiana they’ve been getting warrants to compel blood tests for several years know.


3 posted on 06/23/2016 8:02:30 AM PDT by circlecity
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Give the breath test and if it’s close then get the warrant for the blood test. Reasonable doubt then exists. This is not rocket science. In fact, it can become routine and easy.


4 posted on 06/23/2016 8:04:22 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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More importantly - they put Obama’s immigration plan in the toilet.


5 posted on 06/23/2016 8:04:33 AM PDT by bigbob
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Problem is that they (used to) have to have probable cause just to pull you over. Now they can pull you over, tell you they suspect you of being drunk, force you to blow. That a violation of my 4th amendment rights, period.


6 posted on 06/23/2016 8:05:29 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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The 5th Amendment only applies to statements, such as confessions, admissions or what I call “useful information.” It has never extended to physical evidence such as blood samples, fingerprints, voice or handwriting samples. The seizure of physical evidence, as in this case, is covered by the 4th Amendment.


7 posted on 06/23/2016 8:06:57 AM PDT by henkster (Don't listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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To: rarestia

Just about any cop can come up with a reason to pull you over. Marked lanes is about the easiest of them all.


8 posted on 06/23/2016 8:07:21 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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Don’t they typically do field sobriety tests before breath tests?


9 posted on 06/23/2016 8:09:11 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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The irony is the blood test is the most accurate.

I heard a lawyer say “always insist on a blood test”.

Why? Because, breath tests (not to mention walk-the-line tests) are highly inaccurate. You can be under the legal limit, but show positive on a breath test.

This will only encourage officers to use the less accurate tests. And, when it comes to the less accurate tests, when in doubt they will lean toward arresting you.


10 posted on 06/23/2016 8:09:47 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Hillary Clinton stood next to the coffin of an American soldier and lied to his parents' face)
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Not necessarily. I think the field test is also used to determine capacity to continue to drive. So, they might use it after an acceptable blow test just to get their way AND to have court data supporting their decision. I don’t really fault the police on drunk drivers. Impaired drivers are deadly. I fault some of them for being rude and arrogant even when their numbers don’t validate their suspicions.


11 posted on 06/23/2016 8:12:57 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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Not to mention the Fourth Amendment’s safeguards against illegal search and seizure.


12 posted on 06/23/2016 8:15:36 AM PDT by IronJack
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I think the rationale is that your breath and urine are expelled from your body by natural processes, so only probable cause is needed to collect them. Blood, on the other hand, is considered part of your person, soa court order is required to get it.


13 posted on 06/23/2016 8:19:41 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Democrat Drinking Game - Every time they mention a new social program, chug someone else's beer.)
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“You’re being forced to provide evidence that could incriminate you. So much for the 5th amendment.”

I agree with you 100%.


14 posted on 06/23/2016 8:20:10 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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Here’s a GREAT site if you’re interested in your Fourth Amendment RIGHTS.

http://fourthamendment.com/


15 posted on 06/23/2016 8:23:39 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Justice Clarence Thomas dissented, saying he would have found both tests constitutional.

For shame - Thomas sides with Big Government.

16 posted on 06/23/2016 8:32:24 AM PDT by gdani
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and our southern neighbors who believe drunk driving is a sport akin to “football” rise up and cheer!


17 posted on 06/23/2016 8:35:36 AM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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Wish I had confidence that the breath test machines are proper, properly maintained, and properly calibrated. But, my confidence in government institutions has dropped to a very low point.


18 posted on 06/23/2016 8:37:46 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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That part of the 5th amendment recites "nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself," which is different from the broader class of disclosing evidence. A person can be compelled to submit to a search, and the search can be incriminating.
19 posted on 06/23/2016 8:41:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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“Wish I had confidence that the breath test machines are proper, properly maintained, and properly calibrated.”

Gargle with mouthwash and the machine will say you’re drunk for quite some time afterwards.


20 posted on 06/23/2016 8:42:55 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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