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Alton Sterling shooting: Video of deadly encounter with officers sparks outrage
CNN ^ | July 06, 2016 | Joshua Berlinger

Posted on 07/06/2016 3:31:12 PM PDT by Trump20162020

A day after a video captured white officers pinning down and shooting a black man outside a convenience store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, federal authorities are investigating the case.

Alton Sterling, 37, is dead. The U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division is leading an investigation into what happened. And the president of the NAACP's local branch is calling for the city's police chief and mayor to resign.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: altonsterling; cnn; demagogicparty; donutwatch; joshuaberlinger; louisiana; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; police; sterling
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To: Trump20162020

I just ran across this judge’s two videos. The first one is actually below the one you will see first. God bless this woman. She has most likely turned many a wayward teen toward something better:

http://www.11alive.com/news/bibb-judge-surprised-video-of-her-went-viral/119964147


41 posted on 07/06/2016 4:45:03 PM PDT by Darnright (When a system acts illegally, its dictates are not the law of the land, they are the law of force)
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To: Trump20162020
The cops pin the guy down, then one draws a gun and shoots the guy in the chest at point blank range. As he's pinned to the ground.

That's murder. Police apologists can spin it any way they want. I saw what I saw. Guy gets pinned to the ground, and a cop casually draws his weapon and shots him in the chest.

Not justifiable. I don't care what color anyone is. The cops f---ed up.

A totally uncalled for escalation. That's all cops do nowadays: look for an excuse to escalate things, and then try to justify their use of deadly force based on the escalation.

What was this guy's crime again?

Maybe when some law abiding concealed carriers get shot the same way, and they will, then People will understand that there's a problem here.

This shooting was not justified. The guy was not any kind of lethal threat.

Cop just pulls out his gun and kills the guy while he's pinned to the ground without the use of his arms.

We don't need cops who just kill people when things get a little squirrelly.

No way, no how is this proper procedure in the United States of America. It looks like the kind of thing that would happen in a police state.

There's just no proportionality anymore. It's all about escalation, and then blaming everyone but the cop once their escalation reaches its logical conclusion.

42 posted on 07/06/2016 4:51:42 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: struggle

That’s not what you see or hear on the video. What you hear is that one officer says the man has a gun. Then you see one of the officers draw his weapon and aim it at the man’s chest and he fires.

Afterwards a witness reported one of the officers took the gun out of the dead man’s pants.

With that much established it will be an interesting investigation.


43 posted on 07/06/2016 4:52:15 PM PDT by MeganC (The decline of civilization will be carried out by those who are just doing their jobs.)
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To: Trump20162020

I saw the video. I think the perp was trying to reach for his gun but with both holding him, it looked like an execution. I rhink here there was a lapse of judgment.


44 posted on 07/06/2016 5:02:38 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

It looked like the officers were content to hold him down until they saw something on the man’s right hand side... Then the officers responded abruptly.


45 posted on 07/06/2016 5:10:19 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Trump20162020

I would surmise these officers were going to pat him down, he resisted that, it turned into an arrest situation, he resisted that as well.

They got him down on the ground to get him into position for non-compliant handcuffing. He resisted that. The officer straddling him felt the weapon and/or Sterling was reaching for the pocket the weapon was suspected to be in, an overt action that demanded an overt response.

Those officers gave him an opportunity to save his own life. He chose not to. Adult decisions have adult consequences.

With this new video, it can’t be said they planted the gun, or didn’t have cameras on, both of which can be seen dangling off of them.

Good shoot. CVS pays the tab.


46 posted on 07/06/2016 5:17:09 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Crucial
I saw the video. I think the perp was trying to reach for his gun but with both holding him, it looked like an execution.

I've watched the video at least 5 times. You say the guy reached for his gun, with both arms pinned? I don't see that, and neither will any jury.

47 posted on 07/06/2016 5:17:19 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Crucial

Possibly, but with just two police officers and a man fighting them, all it would take would be for him to get an arm free for a split second while an officer changes positions to try to cuff him or tase him, for example, and he could potentially grab either his own gun or one of theirs and shoot one or both of them, or land a good punch. Two officers should be able to subdue one man resisting arrest, but not necessarily. At this point not enough seems to be known about what happened.


48 posted on 07/06/2016 5:18:35 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

Good points and for me, I saw an officer clearly distressed after the shot that took the man’s life. You can hear it in his reaction.

There is no winning with this BLM movement, they are rabid and determined. I am so angry that white cops deal with this crap ALL DAY LONG.


49 posted on 07/06/2016 5:22:54 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.)
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To: sargon

You may be right. It was hard for me to see what his arms were doing. The bottom line is that the officer seemed to use deadly force unnecessarily.


50 posted on 07/06/2016 5:23:30 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: VAFreedom

Can’t see his other arm, but it looks like he either tried grabbing the cop’s gun or he shot first from what little you can see. Hard to tell...


51 posted on 07/06/2016 5:27:04 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Ismael's descendants have been murdering since 1900 BC - it's "racist" to acknowledge that fact)
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To: Trump20162020

“U.S. Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division is leading an investigation into what happened” and after what we have seen and heard from the US Justice department in the last week would any “reasonable” person believe anything they say?


52 posted on 07/06/2016 5:27:04 PM PDT by deepestsouth1
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To: Molon Labbie
Good shoot. CVS pays the tab.

Using your logic, any cop shooting any CCW licensee would be a "good shoot".

Gee, I wonder what city will burn this time around?

I'm sorry to say that, if this guy were white, and the police officers were black, the same crowd that says this shooting is justified would instead be screaming to high heaven.

Double standards are no good for anyone. This was an execution, IMHO, plain and simple.

Maybe a jury will think otherwise, however. But a video is powerful evidence, and most reasonable people, black, white, or purple, will make the same observations I've made, IMHO.

53 posted on 07/06/2016 5:28:11 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Crucial
And how did anyone know there was a gun in the guy's pocket? They have x-ray vision or something?

Justified or not, the optics are this are bad, IMHO.

A lot of it might have to do with the genesis of the call in the first place, but everybody knows how this is going to play with the minority population, and, given the actual history, the results won't be good for either side.

54 posted on 07/06/2016 5:31:38 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: sargon

This guy was not a law abiding citizen. A convicted felon, child molester. There is evidence that he pointed a gun at someone and the police were called to investigate. They were legally and lawfully present, he was not and when it was evident that they intended to discover if he was armed, he fought and died for it.

Don’t be mistaken, this guy did not die for gun rights, or against tyranny. He died as he lived, a criminal, fighting the police.

All of the things he did fly in the face of what responsible gun owners stand for.

Executions happen when you are completely helpless and unable to resist. He resisted,and in such a way that made the officers believe their lives were in danger. It’s a shame that he put himself and them in that situation.

I have yet to see a video where a white guy fought black officers and they had to kill him...maybe its out there.


55 posted on 07/06/2016 5:39:51 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Crucial; greatvikingone

I watched the video also. It is horrible. Something I noticed and wonder about is what was going on with the officer on top of Sterling. The view of him is mostly blocked by the officer who ended up shooting, but just after he says that Sterling has a gun, it appears like that officer is possibly struggling with Sterling. You can see his arms moving around, so it doesn’t seem he has Sterling under control and pinned at that moment, and possibly from what it looks like, he and Sterling were wrestling at that moment.

And we should note, too, that after the officer who shot reports that shots were fired, he does exclaim the “f” word. At this point it doesn’t seem like something he wanted to do and thought nothing of.


56 posted on 07/06/2016 5:48:16 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Have to wait for Paul Ryan’s take on this.

/S


57 posted on 07/06/2016 5:54:30 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: MeganC; blueplum
From this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQU92opE51I

58 posted on 07/06/2016 6:05:19 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

They did some serious editing of that video. Something happens between the time the cop’s on top of him and then on the ground shooting him. Probably the guy had a surge of energy and threw the cop off... maybe went for his gun... who knows.


59 posted on 07/06/2016 6:10:11 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Faith Presses On

There was a few moments betweem the time he took out his gun and he fired. It seems to me he could have easily used that free arm to keep him pinned to get cuffs on or get backup.


60 posted on 07/06/2016 6:19:29 PM PDT by Crucial
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