Newly released video DESTROYS liberal narrative on Alton Sterling shooting

http://www.allenbwest.com ^ | July 9, 2016 | Matt Palumbo

[NKP_Vet]

We noted in our first piece on the Alton Sterling shooting that while he appeared to reach for a firearm in his pocket, it was still disputable. Only one video was available at the time, and it wasn’t of the best quality. A second video has surfaced, and it does appear to validate the police narrative on the shooting.

[NKP_Vet]

When the smoke clears the officers in both cases will be exonerated and have to go into the witness protection program for the rest of their lives.

[AC86UT89]

Doesn’t matter. The mob was chanting the proven lie “hands up don’t shoot” when the BLM sympathizer started shooting the cops in Dallas. They have their story, all evidence to the contrary will be ignored.

[Popman]

The article keeps using the word "clearly", not that I doubt the narrative of the article, but it sure wasn't "clear" to me...

I consider Allen West an impeccable person and very careful what goes on his website...so it's not a bunch of BS

[pilipo]

This will only be of note to law abiding citizens or anyone interested in that now outdated commodity known as “fact”.

[golux]

Oh for goodness’ sake sometimes I seriously wonder if we shouldn’t re-segregate for their sake and ours and be done with it.

Oh but then we’d have to do without the music. Love the music in this video by the way.

If I may:

It really captures the drama and excitement of contemporary urban living as well as the deeper undertones of a life of ease provided by grateful fellow Americans, all the while highlighting the pressure - nay the crushing responsibility - of quotidian life’s demands.

In the drum-beat we hear the spinners spinning, we see the grilles grilling, we hear the WIC cards scanning, we hear the babies screaming. Where, here, to trace the arc of progress of American Black culture? To the vanguard, the very front of the automobile, that symbol of American ingenuity, pride and achievement under whose bumper our bold protagonist makes his final statement.

Boom... Boom... Boom... As the curtain falls on this proud moment in which a man is wrestled to the ground by nefarious players and - undaunted - reaches for his gun. Yes! In triumph the never-ending music fills our hearts with a sense of the beyond, the infinite; that which is attainable only through persistence, dedication, intelligence, and achievement. Well done.

[mythenjoseph]

Well well well...fancy that a person fighting two police officers makes a questionable move and he gets his ass killed...I feel bad for the cop who had to shoot him at point blank range...to be honest.

[TigersEye]

I’m so glad I’m white. The cops never shoot me when I fight with them and grab for the gun in my pocket.

[rdcbn]

Alton Sterling had previously drawn his pistol on a homeless man and threatened to shoot the homeless guy for asking for spare change.

The homeless guy was the one who called 911 on Alton and told the police he was threatened with with being shot so that was the frame of mind the police were going in with.

Also, Alton was a member of the Bloods street gang and was wearing the Bloods red gang colors, a fact not missed by the police officers.

[faucetman]

http://bluelivesmatter.blue/second-alton-sterling-video-vindicates-cops/

You should go to the source site like I usually do. I blew up the video and watched it there. I would only disagree with Allen West in that the officer had NO PROBLEM removing the gun from the perps pocket.

Reaching, not reaching, who cares. He was aggressively RESISTING.

HE HAD A GUN!

Cops do not have to wait until they are shot to determine whether or not their life was in danger.

An out of control perp, WITH A GUN, unable to be controlled by TWO officers, refusing to obey numerous commands, is just asking to be SHOT.

If it had been a Black officer, I doubt the results would have been any different.

[bravo whiskey]

sure glad i don’t have a girl friend who is more interested in getting her damned video on facebook than applying pressure to stop the bleeding of her shot boy friend. guess that passes for luv among the ferals.

[LTC.Ret]

“Cops do not have to wait until they are shot to determine whether or not their life was in danger.”

Sadly, due to the outrageous rules of engagement of this administration, our Soldiers in the middle east do.

Let’s hope these don’t become the new rules of engagement for our Police forces now that Obama wants to nationalize control of our local Police.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

I had to watch the video several times. One cannot focis on all three involved people’s biomechanical movements and listen to the voices/commands....and digest them all at once.

After watching it several times...both with and without audio...it is clear to me that the officers arrived on the scene of a call we’re at a minimum they knew someone had stated the suspect had a gun and then threaten them with it.

Note that on every single police call..no matter what the call is..... the very first thing an officer is trained to do is to render the scene safe for everyone. This could be parking a patrol car to block vehicle traffic because a power line has fallen down or it may be physically controlling a person until all the facts are known.

On this call I think the following occured.

They contact the suspect who turns away from them and begins to move away from them. This is not what a compliant suspect does. Turning away is also known to be done by suspects just before they attack and is a prime pre-attack indicator.

They believe they have a non-compliant suspect who is possibly armed with a gun. Turning away is either an attempt to flee or an attempt to conceal his right side where we eventually see as a gun in his pocket.

These would be red flags for beat officers with more than a year of street level contacts with suspects in areas with significant street crime issues.

That scenario appears to be consistent with what we see next...an officer charging the suspect from behind and attempting to do a take down and get control of a suspect who they believe is armed and fleeing or concealing.

The confrontation moves to the grouns. Even with 2 officers in semi-mounted positions the scene is not yet safe. The suspect’s hands are not controlled and he has not yet been searched for weapons.

The suspect has full control of his righ arm and hand for bearly the entire ground confrontation with a breif moment when one officer has the right hand trapped. But that officer is not in a good position to leverage against a joint or keep control of the hand and susoect frees it.

This can be seen with the shoulder and elbow movements of the suspects right side.

At this time you hear commands and communications where one officer is telling the other thatthe suspect has a gun. This may mean he has a gun in his pocket or his hand...or he has his hand on the gun which is in his roght front pocket.

That is not clear based upon the video.

This is a bad scenario for all involved.

I believe I hear ine officer telling the other officer to shoot by saying something like “do it.”

Shots are fired by at least one officer and possibly by the other officer and/or the suspect.

I have heard elsewhwere that the recovered firearm from the suspect was a hammerless revolver. That type of firearm is easily fired from within a pocket.

We will have to wait to find out if the suspect’s hand and/or pants shows signs of the suspect firing a firearm and whether the susoect’s handgun was fired during the incident.

It should be rmemebered that it is not required that a police officer wait for a suspect to grab point and fire a gun at her/him before shooting.....no more than if a guy winds up to throw a punch at you that you sre required to wait until the punch lands before you act.

[dragnet2]

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[mythenjoseph]

Hahahaha....good 1

[Popman]

Thanks... Great synopsis...

I don’t have the patience nor the eyeballs to do what you did...

Thanks again...

[dragnet2]

We will have to wait to find out if the suspect’s hand and/or pants shows signs of the suspect firing a firearm and whether the susoect’s handgun was fired during the incident.

There audio was relatively good, better than the video and the poor video angle of the suspects right side. I never heard a shot prior to the LEOs weapon being discharged. There could have been, but I certainly did not hear it.

[Albion Wilde]

bump

[dragnet2]

You might be corrupt regarding this Louisiana incident, but I would certainly not consider this video conclusive.

And I believe it’s possible the Minnesota shooting might have some real issues involved.

[dragnet2]

Er, you might be correct not corrupt...☺☺

[Faith Presses On]

One big question is whether or not the officer on top of Sterling drew his own gun at the same time as the second officer, the one closest to the camera.

The officer on Sterling puts his hand on his own weapon at the five-second mark, but it isn't clear whether or not he actually drew it. It makes sense that he did, though, since Sterling has a gun and seems to be trying to draw it, and Sterling's right arm is unrestrained, so the officer would be his prime target and only a foot or so away and needs to defend himself.

Then, too, it appears that it is the officer on top of Sterling who fired the first shot at him seconds later and it seems his gun was drawn before that point.

So if the officer on top of Sterling also had his gun drawn while continuing to struggle for a few second with Sterling, he then only had his own left hand to fight Sterling with, which is why, apparently he can do no more than grab Sterling's right hand for a moment with his left hand, as seen at the 6-second mark image.

If he had both hands free, he most likely would have been able with two hands to subdue Sterling's one free hand.

But if he drew his own gun because of the imminent threat of being shot by Sterling, he then risked having Sterling wrestle for his gun and having it discharged at either himself or his partner.

How do you, after all, wrestle with someone when you have a loaded gun in one hand? It's a very dangerous situation.

So the conclusion would seem to be that if the officers shot Sterling because the threat to themselves became too great, especially once Sterling continued to resist and apparently to go for his gun, and the officers could only struggle with him hand-to-hand with one hand, which was too risky to continue.

And something else to note is that the officer closest to the camera actually starts to draw his gun, then stops, then actually draws his gun. So the police weren't quick to pull their weapons.