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To: Timpanagos1

Oh man... This is bad for LEO. Head on a swivel guys.


5 posted on 07/13/2016 5:24:18 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

Either way this was not good for the LEO

Its a sucky situation either way, that wallet could have been a gun. You don’t know.

Castile should have just followed police orders.

To me, dealing with the police is like playing “Simon says”, except Simon has a gun.

In New Jersey, I am sure in other states as well, all school employees must pass a back ground check, any felonies would disqualify you from any employment, teacher, janitor, secretary, cafeteria, bus drives, doesn’t matter if you deal with students or not. Any felony would disqualify your employment, any felonies after you have been hired would get you automatically fired. This is standard in many states.

No school district is going to fire you for traffic tickets or minor offenses


14 posted on 07/13/2016 5:35:04 PM PDT by arl295
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To: Celerity

The permit may have been valid, but validity is determined by the permit holder’s behavior and is subject to revocation for violations/criminal behavior.

For example the fact may emerge that Castile was under the influence while driving and allegedly armed could be de-facto revocation of validity of permit on discovery of the facts.

I’m not a lawyer but it seems reasonable the validity of a permit depends on the holder’s behavior.


18 posted on 07/13/2016 5:37:38 PM PDT by BloodScarletMinnesota
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To: Celerity

he had moved and never reported it...permit void


21 posted on 07/13/2016 5:39:44 PM PDT by your mommy told me to tell you
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The video clearly shows a distraught officer, almost near tears, making what is called an excited utterance, “I told him not to touch it!”

Meaning,the weapon was exposed at one point or the officer was told that he had a weapon, and the officer gave him instructions not to touch it.

Castile either did or the officer thought he was making a overt move to do so.

The officer’s action will be judge based upon well established case law, Graham v. Conner.

To summarize, was the officer’s action reasonably objective in light of the circumstances known to them at the time and would a similar officer with similar training and experience act in a similar fashion.

A traffic stop is not a mere contact where you are free to leave or ignore instructions from the officer. There is enough sufficient doubt that this officer will never be indicted.

His career is over though, no matter what and the Castile estate is going to get a couple million dollar settlement.

Babymama already getting her advance through the Gofundme.


56 posted on 07/13/2016 6:00:30 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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so he had a permit....the gun was on his lap....he had a “concealed” carry permit, why was it out and on his lap....


135 posted on 07/13/2016 8:16:49 PM PDT by cherry
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Nonsense, permit or no permit, you don’t reach when a cop tells you not to reach.

Besides, his illegal drug use invalidated any supposed permit.


179 posted on 07/17/2016 5:35:11 AM PDT by IChing (Nuke Mecca already)
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Oh, and there’s that little thing about he looks EXACTLY like the armed robber from the store video, which they still have not ruled out being him.


180 posted on 07/17/2016 5:36:53 AM PDT by IChing (Nuke Mecca already)
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