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With Friends Like Turkey, the U.S. Needs Russia in Syria
World Politics Review ^ | July 18, 2016 | Richard Gowan

Posted on 07/18/2016 9:46:13 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

With Friends Like Turkey, the U.S. Needs Russia in Syria

Richard Gowan |Monday, July 18, 2016

Winston Churchill once quipped that the only thing worse than fighting a war with allies is fighting one without them. Looking at the Middle East, U.S. President Barack Obama might wish he could get rid of his regional allies anyway. His efforts to stabilize the region have been persistently weakened or derailed by America’s supposed friends. Israel tried hard to block last year’s Iranian nuclear deal. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states have deliberately stirred up the Syrian war, even as Washington has been doing its best to try to end it through diplomacy.

Now the turbulence in Turkey threatens to complicate the Obama administration’s final six months of crisis management in the Middle East. Last week’s failed coup by elements of the Turkish army has further upset already strained Turkish-American relations. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called on the U.S. to extradite Fetullah Gulen, a Pennsylvania-based Turkish cleric he claims was behind the abortive putsch. Some of Erdogan’s political allies have gone further, accusing Washington of complicity in the coup.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldpoliticsreview.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: russia; syria; turkey

1 posted on 07/18/2016 9:46:13 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

LOL. This guy thinks Obama is trying to stabilize the region.


2 posted on 07/18/2016 9:48:14 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Now the turbulence in Turkey threatens to complicate the Obama administration’s final six months of crisis management in the Middle East.”

And just what would that “crisis management” consist of? Throwing more gasoline on the ME “fire?” The best we can hope for is that Obola spends the next six months seeing if its is really possible to wear out AF-1 traveling around the world on his final apology tour!


3 posted on 07/18/2016 9:50:49 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is exactly what this Democratic Party of America administration thrives on...making our allies enemies and or enemies emboldened.


4 posted on 07/18/2016 9:54:07 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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New Ties Emerge Between Clinton And Mysterious Islamic Cleric
housed in the Poconos----the one Erdogan Is blaming for the coup

Daily Caller ^ | 7/13/16 / FR Posted by Nachum

A newly-released email and lobbying documents filed with Congress reveals new ties between the nefarious "Clintonworld" and members of a network operated by a mysterious Islamic cleric from Turkey.

Connections between Clinton and acolytes of the Imam, Fethullah Gulen, could muddle the complex relationship between the U.S. and Turkey, a key NATO ally, if former secretary of state Hillary wins the White House.

Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has mounted an aggressive crackdown against Gulen and his followers, known as Gulenists. Erdogan, who was once allied with Gulen, has even personally asked President Obama to extradite the 74-year-old guru, who has lived in self-exile in Pennsylvania’s Pocono mountains since 1999.

Erdogan has accused Gulen of attempting to undermine the Turkish government. Gulen’s followers control many Turkish institutions, including the media, courts, and police force. (Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

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The Clinton Foundation rears its ugly head....again.
Imam Gulen is a contributor (then again, who isn't?)

ANALYSIS The Clintons operate as an influential shadow government, one that threatens the US government its global relationships, and its citizenry.

Their associations (based on their get-rich-quick operations) clearly undermine US ntl security.

It’s really perverse that these onetime government servants can stay in power indefinitely. They are power-mongers; they hijack government affairs for their personal benefit and influence.......all at the expense of the American people.

The Clintons need to be held accountable......(A) they should be stripped of any association with the US government, and, (B) banned from all activites that impinge on US sovereignty.

In sum, the Clintons are just feckless bottom feeders....con artists hijacking our tax dollars, and the wealth of others. They are practiced experts at duping people. (hat tip himnohero)

5 posted on 07/18/2016 10:02:27 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PACE A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Turkey has never been our ally and their inclusion in NATO is a massive joke. They’ve been supporting ISIS ever since Obama and McCain created them.

Russia is out only real ally and as soon as Trump is elected he will be able to repair that relationship and make it thrive. After that ISIS (and Turkey) is toast.

The entire coup was manufactured.


6 posted on 07/18/2016 10:04:41 AM PDT by Snowybear
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When Obama makes these stupid remarks, He's not talking to Americans....he's talking to his foundation donors. M/M Obama have BIG plans to get-rich-quick ala the Clintons.

It was abundantly clear....in his WH speech to Americans..... Obama was priming his get-rich-quick pump......he was talking to all of his potential Mideast-Islamic pals ready w/ their checkbooks.

M/M Obama have BIG plans to get-rich quick ala the Clintons: millions and million in foundations donations, multi-million honoraria, consultancies, lucrative insider business deals.

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ACTION NOW Contact your Representative and Senators
Capitol Switchboard 1-866-220-0044

NOW THIS WILL SERVE NOTICE: Americans demand to see all wire-transfers in and out of the WH---to and from the offices of Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Congressional Democrats, UN Amb Samantha Power, SoS John Kerry, the Clinton Foundation, CAIR...and other accessories tangentially or directly involved in this scheme.

Mideast/Islamic countries and/or Islamic individuals and other suspects, may now or may have been contributing (1) to Obama's two tax-free foundations (two that we know of), (2) to his Chicago-based library fund, and, (3) to other networks he might be using.

IF OBAMA RECEIVED MONIES FROM TERRORIST COUNTRIES, AMERICANS DEMAND OBAMA'S FOUNDATIONS, THE LIBRARY FUND, AND HIS NETWORKS BE CLOSED DOWN.

7 posted on 07/18/2016 10:05:03 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PACE A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Obama’s efforts to stabilize” the world... is purely Islamic/IslamoNazi....to install the most violent, evil, anti-Christrian, anti-American Moslems in as many countries as possible....(including eventually Europe and USA...they’re invading as rapidly as possible right now as we type...)


8 posted on 07/18/2016 10:07:48 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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When ISIS splintered from Al Nusra last summer under the auspices of Turkey, the US did not act and perpetuated its long-standing policy of providing Turkey cover for its murderous policies.

How Turkey Went Bad / | 10/3/2014 | Daniel Pipes / FR Posted by markomalley

Only twelve years ago, the Republic of Turkey was correctly seen as a stalwart NATO ally, the model of a pro-Western Muslim state, and a bridge between Europe and the Middle East. A strong military bond with the Pentagon undergirded broader economic and cultural ties with Americans. For those of us who work on the Middle East, time in Istanbul, Ankara, and other Turkish cities was a refreshing oasis from the turmoil of the region.

And then, starting with the still-astonishing election of 2002, the country dramatically changed course. Slowly at first and then with increasing velocity since mid-2011, the government began breaking its own laws, turned autocratic, and allied with the enemies of the United States. Even those most reluctant to recognize this shift have been forced to do so. If Barack Obama listed Turkey’s dominant political leader, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, as one of his five best foreign friends in 2012, he showed a quite different attitude by having a mere chargé d’affaires represent him at Erdogan’s presidential inauguration a few weeks ago – a public slap in the face.

What caused this shift? Why did Turkey go rotten?

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With its youthful population of 75 million, a central location, control of a key waterway, and eight mostly problematic neighbors, Turkey is a highly desirable ally.

In addition, it enjoys a position of prominence in the Middle East, among Turkic-speakers from Bosnia to Xinjiang, and among Muslims worldwide. The U.S.-Turkish alliance that began with the Korean War has been highly advantageous to Washington, which is understandably loath to lose it.

That said, one side alone cannot sustain an alliance. Ankara’s record of friendly relations with Tehran, support for Hamas and the Islamic State, undermining the authority of Baghdad, virulence toward Israel, and threats against Cyprus make its membership in NATO questionable at best and duplicitous at worst.

Washington must signal that the bully tactics winning votes within Turkey fail in the rest of the world. The Wall Street Journal has helpfully proposed moving a U.S. military base in Turkey to Iraqi Kurdistan. Erdogan’s increasingly dictatorial rule must be repudiated as should Ankara’s continued occupation of Cyprus, its support for terrorists, and its anti-semitic effusions.

Beyond these steps, the time has come for the U.S. government to make clear that unless major changes occur quickly, it will push for Turkey’s suspension and eventual expulsion from NATO.

If Erdogan insists on acting the rogue, then that’s how its former ally should treat him.


9 posted on 07/18/2016 10:10:19 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PACE A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Just as the cop killings represent the 0dunga threat to law and order in America, Erdogan realized he must pull the lever on his Islamist State dream before 0dunga leaves office. The cop killers and Erdogan BOTH know they have full support of our insurgent gov't for at least the next six months. THESE EVENTS ARE NOT MERE COINCIDENCES WITH 0DUNGA'S SHORT TIME REMAINING IN OFFICE!!!!

A President Trump must declare WAR on the ISLAMO-FASCISTS within our State Dept, DHS, DOJ, IRS, FBI, NSA, CIA, etc., and military brass AND CLEAN HOUSE WITH A MAJOR CLEANSING!!! And to the transgender flamers in our military and to the ISIS-sympathizer employees of the State Dept: "YOU'RE FIRED!!!"

Trump needs to reinstall the Reagan old guard, all the way down to recreating a White House of the people and NOT 'of the ghetto'. Track down ALL that was STOLEN from the White House, and FIX all that was defaced or CHANGED.

RESTORE our gov't and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

10 posted on 07/18/2016 10:15:01 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe we should have given Russia the green light to shoot down a couple of Turkish planes after all.


11 posted on 07/18/2016 10:17:18 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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BACKSTORY---THEN-CONG WEXLER APPOINTS HIMSELF ISLAMIC PEACEMAKER
Wexler founded the Congressional Caucus on US-Turkish Relations
and got himself a seat on a Congressional Study Group on Turkey.

THEN-CONG WEXLER AND BIBI NETANYAHU.

As the putative "Fla Congressman (ousted for lying)," Wexler inveigled the US to launch a "cooperative effort" to further Islamic Turkey's "economic and military self-reliance."

At Wexler's behest, the US stupidly loaned and granted Islamic Turkey more than $7 billion in economic aid, and more than $14 billion in military assistance.

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In July 2008, it was revealed that then-Cong Robert Wexler claimed his mother-in-law's home in Delray Beach, Fla as his official residence (though he was listed on the House roll as "Dem-Boca Raton")...he actually lived in a Maryland suburb for most of the year.

Edward J. Lynch, a Republican running for Wexler's congressional seat, researched Wexler's living arrangements and took his argument to Fox News. "The house he lists on his voter registration is his in-laws' house, in a gated 55-and-older community," Lynch said. "Legally, he can't move back with children under 18."

After Wexler was confronted about the allegation, he stated that his mother-in-law does own the house in Delray Beach. But he also said he stays there when in Florida which, according to his office is, on average, about twice a month.

As a putative Florida resident, Wexler did not pay personal income tax, and his vehicles were also registered in that state, despite his near-permanent residency in Maryland and the Washington metropolitan area.

Wexler, born in 1961, did not meet the age requirements for his mother-in-law's senior community. Wexler later obtained a separate address within Palm Beach County.

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LEST WE FORGET---

Islamic TURKEY received $21 billion economic/military US foreign aid (orchestrated by Wexler---a Fla Congressman forced out of office for lying).

The ex-Fla Cong WEXLER inveigled the US to launch a "cooperative effort to further Turkish economic and military self-reliance," so the US stupidly loaned and granted Turkey more than $7 billion in economic aid and more than $14 billion in military assistance.

So much for "peace and cooperation." Turkey is now acquiring nuclear weapons and the ex-Fla Congressman is now running a.n.o.t.h.e.r Mideast (cough) "Peace" group sucking up US tax dollars.

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Countless US assets---our embassies, ships and military bases are bombed----our military and diplo-personnel savaged, killed, maimed and tortured by fanatics in Mideast hellholes---and invariably the US gets the blame: "We weren't stern enough, we weren't strong enough"---and my personal favorite----"we didn't give them enough money," etc etc etc.

REALITY CHECK: let us count the ways America has been duped:

eocons duped the US into pouring trillions into Islamic Afghanistan.....the most corrupt spot on the globe. The Bank of Kabul is engaged in massive fraud---the bank gets billions of US tax dollars deposited to run the war----if you are "a connected" Afghani you can withdraw billions with no silly responsibility to pay it back. Afghan Pres Karzhai was seen loading billions of US dollars to transport out of the country.

Who could forget Obama's "Arab Spring" when all of the terrorists would suddenly become sap-happy humanitarians, weaving daisy chains while frolicking around the May pole?

Since he duped America into electing him in 2008-12, Obama's been prostrate, apologizing for America-----on his knees, all puckered up, sucking up to America-hating countries. Obama and the Chicago crime kingpins he installed in the WH have done everything possible to undermine US ntl security --- and they did it with our tax dollars.

ITEM Obama entertained the Muslim Brotherhood in the WH---and he gave the Muslim Brotherhood $2 billion tax dollars to finance its anti-American activities. It's entirely conceivable that the Mideast killings of Americans is being financed w/our tax dollars---thanks to the idiot in the WH.

He and the Chicago crime bosses in the WH should be charged w/ un-American activities.

12 posted on 07/18/2016 10:17:41 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PACE A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing penetrates it.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I agree. NATO was created to counter Russia, but I would say Russia is 1/5th the threat Turkey is to the West. I am more and more convinced that what we saw was a false flag (I think it was PJ media that first suggested this). Turkey is the next Iran.
13 posted on 07/18/2016 10:37:51 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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What, we didn’t show our incredible insight into complex regional multi-cult nations sufficiently with Syria Libya and Egypt? We have to go meddle with the big kahuna Turkey?

The West has a multi-hundred year history of getting just about everything wrong with Turkey and now we want to put this crew, on their way out the door, in charge? Did we solve the bathroom thing yet?

It would be hard to think of anything stupider, but I have every confidence this admin could come up with it.


14 posted on 07/18/2016 1:11:02 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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I don’t have the slightest idea as to the veracity of the first part of your post, but as far as the second half, spot on. HRC would take the world to nuclear war if she thought she could make a buck on it.


15 posted on 07/18/2016 1:14:12 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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Erdogan is now free to realize his dream of restoring the Ottoman Empire. This “coup” removes the last obstacles.

And your average Turk who up to now may not have cared about Erdogan, is going to start having Delusions of Grandeur of a new Golden Age for Turkey.


16 posted on 07/18/2016 1:14:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Snowybear

Russia not now nor have they ever been an Ally of ours they openly arm and support Iran, and it’s proxy Hezbollah who has tried to get their hands on Russian military equipment from Syria. So that they can along with Iran attempt to destroy Israel.


17 posted on 07/18/2016 2:29:45 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade ( America's Party! Tom Hoefling/Steve Schulin 2016)
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