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At this point, I'm more on the side that these police officers are being vilified.

- A recent poll said something like 80% of drivers admit to becoming enraged behind the wheel.

- Parents and spouses get enraged. People get enraged over injustices.

- The police here were dealing with their adrenaline pumping. From what I recall, the driver was going upwards of 100 mph. He was risking the lives of everyone along the route he took, including no doubt some children, as well as the officers chasing him. That is enough to have the police chasing him physically "pumped up" and enraged at him, and justifiably so.

- IIRC also, the driver stopped only because he went down a dead-end street.

- He got down on the ground, but given the extreme lengths he'd gone to to flee - he was apparently dead-set against be arrested - who is to say he wouldn't make a move against the police when they approached him, or that he wasn't possibly armed and waiting their approach. They needed to neutralize his threat quickly and overwhelmingly, and without hesitating to deliberate what to do.

- His flight was a very violent thing, in that he seriously imperiled people all along the way, without regard for life.

- How much can be expected of people who likely weren't "the smartest kid in the class," and probably would admit as such. They have jobs of physical abuse to their bodies (e.g., see how one officer physically took down Alton Sterling before he was eventually shot), as well as extreme stress and uncertainty, and they need to be diplomatic, be able to take abuse, and also make quick decisions that they'll be second-guessed for, especially by above-the-law politicians and arrogant, self-pretentious college graduates who have never tried and never will try anything so difficult as being a police officer.

1 posted on 07/19/2016 2:21:50 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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police tried to stop a pickup truck driven by Richard Simone of Worcester, according to the Massachusetts State Police. Simone, 50, was the subject of warrants for assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, larceny and failure to stop for officers, authorities said.

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2 posted on 07/19/2016 2:29:31 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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“He got down on the ground, but given the extreme lengths he’d gone to to flee - he was apparently dead-set against be arrested - who is to say he wouldn’t make a move against the police when they approached him, or that he wasn’t possibly armed and waiting their approach. “

He got out of the truck obeying each command by the officers. There were about seven big dudes on him.


3 posted on 07/19/2016 2:31:14 PM PDT by TexasGator
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Geeeze.....everyone has cameras going all over, all the time. Take em back to the precinct and beat em in the back room if you must. ( some guys need beating. If he led them on a long dangerous high speed chase he needs a reminder. Now he’ll make millions)


4 posted on 07/19/2016 2:32:05 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Also:

The pursuit began when Simone refused to stop for local police in Holden. He was wanted on multiple warrants for assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, larceny, and failure to stop for police. (snip)

The chase went through several towns at speeds exceeding 100 mph, with the pickup truck “making abrupt lane changes as the (suspect) continued to try to evade capture” and crashing at least once, said Dave Procopio, a state police spokesman. But spike strips laid out by police eventually took their toll as the pickup truck rolled to a stop on Hughey Street in Nashua, New Hampshire.

WBZ-TV’s helicopter video showed the truck stopped next to a utility pole on a dead-end street before police officers surrounded it with their weapons drawn.


5 posted on 07/19/2016 2:35:52 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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Anyone who involves himself in a police car chase, endangering the lives of others, deserves a good whoopin’ before actual arrest. They should have beaten him silly.


10 posted on 07/19/2016 2:54:19 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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deservedly so

JUST CANT OBEY POLICE ORDERS

now you tell me how is a cop supposed to know WHY IS THIS AHOLE not pulling over....

MAYBE JUST COMMITTED A FELONY...???


15 posted on 07/19/2016 3:17:21 PM PDT by zzwhale (no way)
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18 posted on 07/19/2016 3:27:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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When will WLM start protesting ANYWHERE over this?/s

Kind of goes to show to a couple points I have been making all week in personal conversations: perhaps sometimes, a person needs to be thumped before/during arrest, maybe the police can make an error of judgement or and actual mistake and shoot someone- just as long as they are not of color ;)


19 posted on 07/19/2016 3:38:19 PM PDT by small farm girl
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I am almost positive I was stopped by the New Hampshire officer a while back. He was pleasant and polite and asked me why I had taken so long pull over. I told him I was looking for a shoulder to pull off the road so he would be safe.


21 posted on 07/19/2016 3:50:38 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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- The police here were dealing with their adrenaline pumping.

Can I use that excuse if I beat someone up?

25 posted on 07/19/2016 3:56:58 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumpers sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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I have been in chases. I can tell you from experience that your heart rate is at 200 BPM the whole time and some go for long times.

When they wreck, and they always do, (sometimes even after you have broken off), a certain demographic has an uncanny ability to survive wrecks that would kill normal people, and I talking about ejections, and through windshields kind of things, they almost always jump up and it’s urban gazelle time.

If you are lucky they collapse in a yard somewhere, if you are unlucky they have broken into someones home and now you have a barricaded subject.

Back to the topic, we have got to only do the things were trained to do to take people into custody, even when the adrenaline is redlined. You can’t enact justice roadside, and you will want to, put you must suppress it.

I have watched officers pass out or puke after chases, and yes, the highfiving happens and it is an outward manifestation of saying “So glad I am alive after that, for there were hundreds of times I could have died.”


50 posted on 07/19/2016 5:12:43 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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There is no excusing these cops for beating a guy peacefully complying with orders. No excuse. I didn’t say it is easy to have your adrenaline through the roof after a 100 mph chase and come down off it like a lamb all calm and logical, but that is all part of what makes being a cop a hard job. You just don’t get to go beating on guys because YOU have an emotional problem on the job.

The cops deserve what they get. They do. These are some of the ones that give all cops a bad name and give Black Lives Matter their excuse.


68 posted on 07/19/2016 6:31:17 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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Good grief. You have people who love cops no matter what they do wrong and people who hate cops no matter what they do right.

How about treating cops like the rest of us. Praise them for doing right and condemn them for doing wrong. I’m posting to you but I mean all the people out there who would defend the police beating a calm compliant perp surrendering to be arrested.


73 posted on 07/19/2016 6:39:52 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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Jackboot licker.


75 posted on 07/19/2016 6:44:57 PM PDT by sport
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Under our system of jurisprudence, if you know it or not, it is the Courts that punish the law violators, after being proven guilty in open Court.Not the police.


77 posted on 07/19/2016 6:51:29 PM PDT by sport
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Why should we believe the Washington comPost?

Has anyone seen a reliable report?


90 posted on 07/19/2016 9:55:39 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Cops are not authorized to convict and punish criminals. I don’t care about their feeeeeelings. They have to have self control or find a new job.


91 posted on 07/19/2016 11:06:38 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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