Neocons, Warmongers, and Globalists Abandon GOP for Hillary

The New American ^ | 28 July 2016 | Alex Newman

[DEEP_e]

they were plants all along

just made us (The US) look bad and brought BAD results

of no earthly good

[VitacoreVision]

FlingWingFlyer: How do we know these same idiots didn’t “abandon” the GOP in 2008 and 2012? We don’t.

Those same Neocons and Globalists told us to “hold our nose” and vote for the Establishment candidate. They liked John McCain and Mitt Romney.

[justa-hairyape]

They are stupid and predictable, which explains why they have lost every war they have fought.

[central_va]

You can either be a patriot nationalist or a globalist NWO type but not both.

If you made Venn diagram of the two philosophies you's have two circles that do not intersect. The globalist circle would be tiny and the nationalist circle would be huge.

[Ken H]

That was something!

[justa-hairyape]

They did abandon the GOP for Obama, they just had to keep it a secret. That is how Obama got away with so much destruction all across the planet. The author kinda missed that part. Obama fought more wars in more countries than any other President in history, he just used very few regular troops. Mostly secret jihadi ‘rebels’ and covert ops. Hillary will add the regular troops to this toxic stew the NeoConvicts are brewing.

[gunnyg]

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“In the massive history book Tragedy and Hope, Bill Clinton mentor and establishment insider Caroll Quigley explains succinctly how American politics works in the real world — and how the insiders like it. “
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The first edition of the above book is said to have been recalled and first edition copies no longer available, later editions said to have been rewritten...????
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[Attention Surplus Disorder]

Well, you’re making two predictions, or one prediction and one “statement”. Just sayin’.

I agree with you that Trump should take the election. I am not sure that Trump can reverse what I am saying has occurred.

This is a cabal that is ready, willing, and able to bring the US to war should it perceive it to be to their advantage. Meaning, thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of US deaths. I’m not indifferent to foreign deaths, just making the distinction. This is a scheme that spans many years. If Trump can fix it (and that is an “if”) and they let him live (and that is an “if”) they can wait four years if it seems like a decent bet.

[Jane Austen]

I agree.

[VitacoreVision]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley#Criticism

Carroll Quigley:

The original edition published by Macmillan in 1966 sold about 8800 copies and sales were picking up in 1968 when they “ran out of stock,” as they told me (but in 1974, when I went after them with a lawyer, they told me that they had destroyed the plates in 1968). They lied to me for six years, telling me that they would re-print when they got 2000 orders, which could never happen because they told anyone who asked that it was out of print and would not be reprinted. They denied this until I sent them xerox copies of such replies to libraries, at which they told me it was a clerk’s error. In other words they lied to me but prevented me from regaining the publication rights by doing so (on OP [out of print] rights revert to holder of copyright, but on OS [out of stock] they do not.) ... Powerful influences in this country want me, or at least my work, suppressed.

[Democratic-Republican]

Did you two read the same article I did? Jeez. Read it completely at the link. He is not slamming Trump nor is he bemoaning the neocon exodus. He is cheering it and he documents it well. I especially love the skewering of Paulson and company.

Y’all got to remember something. Not everyone fully gets this new paradigm all at once. Some of them gradually wake up ( some never will ). Red Pill politics is individualized. But I think this author is clearly awake and understanding this realignment.

[showme_the_Glory]

All the Kings horses and all the Kings men can’t put crooked Hiliary back together again.

[gunnyg]

Thanx for your response—appreciated!

Dick.Gaines: AMERICAN!
aka: Gunny G
Semper AMERICA!
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[Ohioan]

While they have been allies lately, it is a mistake in my opinion to just lump the CFR—formed by disgruntled Wilsonian League disciples, after the sound whipping the patriots gave them in the great League of Nations Debate (1918 - 1920)--with the ex-Trotskyite Neocon Phenomenon. While both groups are clear antagonists to the American Conservative tradition, it is important to understand the differences between them in adopting strategies to reverse the immense damage that whether together or separately they have done to the American future.

In my linked article, above, we analyze the Neocons out of their "Godfather's" defining article--the one where he admits his student day adulation of the butcher Trotsky. The difference, bluntly put, between them & the CFR, is that between delusional one worlders & businessmen seeking to make money anywhere that they can, on the CFR side, and those willing to butcher anyone who gets in the way of an ideological promotion, on the Neocon side. (Trotsky was Lenin's butcher in the Bolshevik Revolution--as head of the "Red Army.")

The Neocons also, according to all the rumors were responsible for Bush II's absolutely idiotic Second Inaugural Address.

[Nifster]

no thanks....anyone who is that verbose doesn’t really have a point

[thulldud]

I have a copy of the 1974 second printing of Tragedy And Hope here, and the paragraph that Newman is quoting is on page 1247. Quigley goes on to mention that the Goldwater nomination of 1964 (a "temporary aberration" in the pattern) did not upset the Establishment nearly as much as it otherwise would have because LBJ's sweep that year blunted its impact.

I don't see that happening this time. The Establishment can't swamp out the petit bourgeoisie intifada the same way Johnson did. He had the borrowed halo of the recently-martyred JFK, plus long-standing connections inside Congress and elsewhere.

The only way Hillary resembles LBJ is in the level of crookedness, and that is not going to help if The Donald can upend her media cover with a single sarcastic remark about Russian email hackers.

More popcorn needed here, definitely.

[Neoliberalnot]

I read it but don’t believe a good part of it. I guess I don’t see the warmongers he refers to, nor the neocons, whatever that means. I do despise the few globalist, NWO types that mostly are in the Rat party. Just because someone supports a strong military and favors its use to prevent the criminals from taking control of countries doesn’t make one a warmonger.