[Winniesboy]

Ireland even did the democratic process, more than once, to leave, and England just spit in their faces each time.

Not sure what 'democratic process' you have in mind, since the current constitutional arrangements in Northern Ireland, as set out in the Good Friday Agreement, were approved by 71% in a referendum of the whole island of Ireland, north and south.

[Talisker]

Not sure what 'democratic process' you have in mind, since the current constitutional arrangements in Northern Ireland, as set out in the Good Friday Agreement, were approved by 71% in a referendum of the whole island of Ireland, north and south.

Yes, a Clinton production. Believe those numbers if you want. The only thing, IMO, the Irish wanted was peace between North and South - agreeing to the continued denial of independence in order to achieve that was the Clinton "deal." Nice bit of triangulation.