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The Idea Of National Sovereignty Drives Democrats Nuts
Townhall.com ^ | September 4, 2016 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 09/04/2016 6:35:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Hardastarboard

Politicians (of both parties) are some of the most verifiably stupid people on the planet.

Not so much stupid as self serving. Calling them stupid makes it sound like what they do is because they are mentally challenge instead of intentionally enriching themselves.


21 posted on 09/04/2016 7:34:45 AM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The political divide is no longer Left-Right.
Those are old-fashioned terms and they don’t especially mean anything. For example, George Will is right wing. Huh?

The real divide is Globalist-Nationalist.

Nationalists are demonized.

If you stand up for America, you’re “the bad guy”.

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Dittos on that, good buddy


22 posted on 09/04/2016 7:36:27 AM PDT by aligncare ( #NeverTrump: When sanctimony meets stupid.)
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To: Jim Noble

Unfortunately, as always, many innocents will suffer in the process. But the innocents are expendable, in the minds of these would-be tyrants.


23 posted on 09/04/2016 7:37:57 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Leep
self serving

Such is the irony - they decry capitalism, yet act in their own self-interest.

24 posted on 09/04/2016 7:39:15 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Kaslin
What a novel concept that a country would decide who gets to enter it and who doesn’t.

True. A thought more native to the Dhimmi’crat mind is deciding who gets to leave it and who doesn’t.

Examples – Soviet Union, Cuba and North Korea. This is the kind of border enforcement the Dhimmi’crats can understand.

25 posted on 09/04/2016 7:49:05 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Hardastarboard
I advocate seizure off any and all assets accumulated by illegal aliens. They do it with drug dealers and drunk drivers. I don't care if you have been here six months or twenty years. Seize bank accounts, houses, cars...everything. They will self deport in droves.

Oh, and you don't get a trial. You do not have the constitutional rights of citizens. Can't come up with proper documentation, out you go.

26 posted on 09/04/2016 7:50:25 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: Hardastarboard
"You can't deport 11 million people"

I guess that 10 million deportations must be the limit. After all, that's the number that Impeached President Clinton deported during his 8 years in office.

27 posted on 09/04/2016 7:53:54 AM PDT by benldguy (Obama delenda est!)
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To: Kaslin; All
The only thing missing from Trump’s proposal is the imposition of massive fines on employers who hire illegals. Cut them off from work, cut them off from benefits designed for Americans, problem.

Yup. I have been saying this for decades!

Someone on Trump's campaign staff or his advisors should wake up.

This ain't rocket science.

28 posted on 09/04/2016 7:54:05 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: JPJones

“Democrats don’t love or even like America.”

Also, they do not like Americans, Capitalism, individualism, apparently petro, red meat, God, innocence, trouble making fetuses, and themselves!

Marijuana is okay...helps them cope with all the above by keeping their minds in the fog/clouds.


29 posted on 09/04/2016 7:57:46 AM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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To: Nea Wood

That, and eliminating “anchor babies.” Trump has talked in the past about how illegals cross the border, drop a baby, and then “we have to take care of the baby for 18 years.” So I know he must oppose anchor babies. Not sure why that wasn’t mentioned in the speech, or maybe I missed it?


Answering your ? is relatively easy. The TEN he talked about are already law and would not have to be enacted by Congress so on the FIRST day he could enact these actions. ANCHOR BABIES would require new legislation be created which could take years to get Congress to approve.

You need to upgrade your knowledge database...


30 posted on 09/04/2016 8:13:11 AM PDT by LaMudBug
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To: Kaslin
To me the hatred of national sovereignty among liberals is a gauge of the unity and advancement of the Internaional Socialist movement around the world; not yet so much a powerful force in America. Other countries, especially in Europe, are really indifferent to their own sovereignty. They like the EU and the socialism that is their real faith and belief.

More important, liberals here know that if they can break the nationalist feeling here, they will have made great progress advancing their cause.

31 posted on 09/04/2016 9:01:27 AM PDT by caddie
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To: Kaslin

4 Block funding for sanctuary cities.

4 Block funding to states that have sanctuary cities.

Fixed with results to ensue.


32 posted on 09/04/2016 9:15:37 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Kaslin

And Ryan, and GOPe as well...No difference.


33 posted on 09/04/2016 9:28:45 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Fatherless violence is the problem; think about the double meaning.)
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To: JPJones

And have been having some interesting conversations here on FR with “conservatives” who (presumably, unknowingly) support globalist free trade, while I argue for tariffs on imports; a more Nationalistic view but one self-describe “conservatives” have real issues with.

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If I remember my economics major correctly—eight years back—it’s that total utility (or worth, or however you want to say it. The ‘official’ term is utility) is maximized when goods and services flow freely.

With one caveat, and that is, ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL.

The problem is that all these ‘trade’ agreements are anything but equal. The countries that we have these agreements with aren’t looking to maximize utility, and so they set their own tariffs and taxes, which ultimately makes the US worse off than if we had no trade agreement at all.

We can’t change what THEY do, but we can change what WE do. Putting up tariffs can snag some of that utility back from the nations taking advantage of us... and a willingness to fight back economically may well convince them to lower their own trade barriers, or at least not raise them too high.


34 posted on 09/04/2016 9:31:02 AM PDT by Luircin (Stomp Hillary, build wall, stop Islam. Any of the above are good reasons to vote. Trump 2016)
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To: Jim Noble

They opposed Christian missionaries coming into help in Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein because they said it tainted (the post-Christian) culture.

Stalinists lie. ALWAYS


35 posted on 09/04/2016 9:37:17 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

36 posted on 09/04/2016 10:06:32 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

classy.


37 posted on 09/04/2016 10:14:18 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Fatherless violence is the problem; think about the double meaning.)
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To: Kaslin

You seem to get into an incredible number of interpersonal conflicts on FR


38 posted on 09/04/2016 10:17:14 AM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: LaMudBug

Don’t attack me. I’m on the right side.

Some say the anchor baby law is just a deliberate misinterpretation and that no new legislation is needed. Just surprised Trump didn’t mention the “we have to take care of them for 18 years” excellent point.


39 posted on 09/04/2016 11:31:43 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: P.O.E.
“Tomorrow, the world” has been a totalitarian’s dream since forever.

Like This Kid Here. starting at :22

40 posted on 09/04/2016 12:46:14 PM PDT by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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