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Chemotherapy warning as hundreds die from cancer-fighting drugs (chemo may kill up to 50% patients
UK Telegraph ^ | 08/30/2016 | Sarah Knapton

Posted on 09/07/2016 3:33:50 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009

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To: Moonman62

All true, except they ultimately did do a PET scan. Anyway, we worked this one over enough. I did read all the posts, and this is a good thread. Thanks.


141 posted on 09/09/2016 10:44:28 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: henkster

Praise god, and so very glad for all of you.
What a strong woman and family.

RE: “And then she came home to our then six and two year old sons the day before Thanksgiving.

And she is still going strong today.”


142 posted on 09/09/2016 10:49:49 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: TheNext
Yes, YOU are brutal...BRUTALLY STUPID; not to mention IGNORANT and pathetic!

Some forms of cancer are hereditary. I suppose that you view these people as "defectives" and should be sterilized or murdered, so that they don't breed....right?

Absolutely NO cancer is "preventable" through whatever you imagine is going to stave it off! Prostate cancer, if you are a male, is a cancer that you WILL get at some point in your life....if you live long enough.

Leukemia, in all of it's forms, hits without warning and no matter what one eats, exercises one does, WILL strike any age, any sex, any age.

Many people who have NEVER smoked, been around smokers, have lived and eaten well/whatever YOU might consider "correctly", get LUNG CANCER!

I can go on, but hope that these few examples have shamed you and put you in your place...in a corner, wearing a gigantic dunce cap!

And no onto heart disease and strokes.

These also run in families; at least the predisposition to it does. Yet there are many people who eat all the wrong thing, are fat, and never exercise at all, who NEVER have any heart problems at all!

Consider yourself BUTT-HURT in the extreme; you stupid, uneducated, sorry excuse for a human being.

143 posted on 09/09/2016 1:31:49 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Tony Snow comes to mind.

God, I miss him.


144 posted on 09/09/2016 1:37:16 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Yes, Tony Snow was a good guy and I miss him too.

But Tony was "famous"; there are many others whom nobody but their family and friends know, who go through the same horrible thing! :-(

People have died from different kinds of cancers for millennia and sadly, there's still NO cure for most of them.

145 posted on 09/09/2016 1:43:38 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I still miss Tony also. I still remember crying the morning the news came that he had died....and the surprise I felt at shedding tears for someone I had never met. He was a wonderful man.


146 posted on 09/09/2016 1:48:46 PM PDT by dmd25
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To: TheNext

Oh, bite me. I had Hodgkin’s disease when I was 20. Not enough time for questionable eating habits to cause that.

If you want to blanket-call other people ignorant, go to DU. I’m sure you’ll be welcome there.


147 posted on 09/09/2016 2:41:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cuckservative: a "conservative" willing to raise another country's ideology in his own country)
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To: TheNext

Your ignorance and arrogance are stunning.

My FIL had the same disdain for people with a certain infirmity. He died with it.


148 posted on 09/09/2016 4:04:14 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MarchonDC09122009

My stage 3 lemon-sized adenocarcinoma tumor had 7 lymph nodes wrapped up in it. The surgery and 6 months of chemo was really rough. We knew that the avastin was damaging my liver, and we kept dosing it. 6 weeks after finishing chemo, I had an esophageal bleed, survived that after ICU and surgery and 6 units of blood, slowly regained health, over time, recovered fully, cancer free, and went to the gym today for my usual workout 9+ years later, no recurrence. Yes Chemo is dangerous. Yes it can kill you and nearly killed me. Yes, you can experience complete recovery. Watch for the miracles. I love my life.


149 posted on 09/09/2016 6:40:36 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: TheNext

Guess what? You do not have it all figured out, and you are not providing much hope to those who need it. Cancer attacks the mind, the body, and the spirit. It takes faith, willingness, great suffering, courage, endurance, and just plain hard work to recover. Cancer is not something the body has, it is something the body does. Nobody chooses to have cancer. Those who are diagnosed benefit from a support network around them encouraging and supporting the fight. That is how you can be helpful in the fight against cancer. Anyone can pray for a cancer survivor, for complete healing. That is the greatest gift you can give to a person stricken with the disease. Be a positive inspiring supportive force for good. That is how you help people who have and survive cancer. Hope this info is helpful to you. Cheers.


150 posted on 09/09/2016 6:51:29 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: BykrBayb; Lou L; HollyB; nopardons; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; MayflowerMadam; FlyingEagle

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 ”A growing body of scientific evidence clearly shows that most cancers can be prevented, not through new medical breakthroughs or miracle drugs, but simply through the way we live,” writes the American Institute for Cancer Research (AICR)

BykrBayb,

you ridicule those whose parents also died of cancer. You erect fake strawman arguments to unjustly bully others. That is your way.

I will NOT respond to fake arguments I never said.

The big three killers are largely preventable.

My way is one of hope.

These multitude of PhDs, say of 4 cancer victims, 3 would still be alive. More optimistic sources have mentioned 97% vs 3%.

So if some of you get angry enough to join the group of 3,
your children will be grateful for trying,
and please send me a smile in twenty years.

Sincerely.


151 posted on 09/09/2016 8:07:29 PM PDT by TheNext (Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
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To: TheNext

This is common sense to be good stewards of our bodies. . Again, how would you explain the millions of childhood, especially babies with cancer.

God have mercy on you.


152 posted on 09/09/2016 8:35:48 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: TheNext
Tell that to the parents who lose their children to leukemia at the age of 2 or 6 !

Tell that to the husband and children who lose3 their wife/mother to breast or ovarian cancer, who had a great diet all of her life, exercised, never had an abortion and was a virgin at the time of her marriage ( and yes, such people DO indeed exist! )and neither drank nor smoked and never did any illicit substance.

You can do EVERYTHING that you imagine will stave off cancer; however, if you are a man, at the age of 50, 5 out of 10 men will get prostate cancer, at 60, 6 out of 10, at 70, 7 out of 10, at 80, 8 out of 10, at 90, 9 out of 10 men WILL get it. Fortunately if caught early enough, this is THE most survivable cancer their is.

What the bleeding hell do Doctorates in Philosophy ( that's what a PHD is; diddums ) know about cancer and it's treatments and/or preventions?

And just WHY do YOU imagine that YOU are an "expert" re all types of cancers?

Your "way" is the way of "faddists" and utter MORONS, who believe that they are smarter than everyone else, which is delusional in the extreme!

153 posted on 09/09/2016 8:56:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: HollyB

SPOT ON !


154 posted on 09/09/2016 8:56:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Lou L
How much of the treatment is mainstreamed? Sounds like it is still in the pre-release phase with very limited use.

Sorry to have such high expectations but we should have made a lot more progress after four/five decades and trillions of dollars and yet, the go-to treatment options are still chemo, radiation, and surgery. Just a guess about the trillions (how about “A LOT OF MONEY”).

As for treatment, one clear vulnerability is its ability to metastasize. It is usually over once it spreads because it becomes a multi-front war and multiple organs are compromised. Second is the fact that it can grow so quickly. Early detection is critical!

The body's housekeeping function should take care of cancer and that is where I believe that the real cure lies. And maybe there is some kind of marker on a cancer cell and the body's immune system can be trained to attack it. Maybe antibodies grown outside the body that are trained to attack the cancer cells and are reintroduced to the body? Or simply boosting the body's immune system would be sufficient. Immunotherapy?

155 posted on 09/10/2016 8:42:03 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345
DHS, immunotherapy medicines like Keytruda and Opdivo are very much mainstream, and they're approved by the FDA and other regulatory bodies. As a said previously, Keytruda is actually submitting data to become a first-line treatment for lung cancer, meaning that it could change the protocols for treating certain types of cancers to use Keytruda first.

You also made my other points, by acknowledging how tricky cancers are, especially when they metasticize. Cancers ARE genetically-adept, mutating and becoming resistant to treatments over time. This is why immunotherapy and targeted treatments are so promising, because the body's own immune system can be very powerful in warding off cellular over-growth.

Yes, a significant number of dollars have been spent over the past half-century, but progress has been made. The body of knowledge surrounding cancer has advanced exponentially. New ways of treating cancers have emerged, followed by new medicines. There are success stories for many patients.

But cancer research and success isn't a goal line; it's a journey. There isn't a one-size-fits-all treatment. Sometimes, we learn things that make us change course drastically in our approach to treatment. If it were easy, we'd already have done it.

156 posted on 09/11/2016 8:31:01 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Lou L
Yet, what is their efficacy? Versus chemo, radiation, and surgery?

So, just now and after 50 years other treatments are becoming available. Yeah! Okay, good news and finally! Keeping with my high expectations, whats up next? There are probably hundreds of types of cancer and people are suffering.

Again, the Achilles heel for cancer is preventing it from spreading. Or at least, that is the biggest bang for the buck (IHMO)... and maybe the hardest. Maybe the immune system can be tasked.

157 posted on 09/11/2016 1:08:30 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: NYAmerican

Have to fund the immigrants. This is genocide.


158 posted on 09/15/2016 8:17:13 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: nopardons
What the bleeding hell do Doctorates in Philosophy ( that's what a PHD is; diddums ) know about cancer and it's treatments and/or preventions?

Doctoral programs in Molecular Oncology and Tumor Immunology and Cancer Biology are quite common. You strike me as an ignoramus.

159 posted on 09/15/2016 8:22:14 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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