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Breaking: Poland to ban all abortions!
LifeSite News ^ | September 23, 2016 | Natalia Dueholm

Posted on 09/24/2016 2:10:42 AM PDT by Matt_DZ_PL

BREAKING:

Polish Parliament overwhelmingly gives initial approval to bill banning all abortions.

 

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WARSAW, Poland, September 23, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) — The lower house of Parliament voted Friday to reject a "Save Women" bill proposing abortion on demand and continue the legislative process on a "Stop Abortion" measure that could result in a total ban on abortion in Poland.

Several bills were introduced in Parliament on Thursday. Members of Parliament heard the reading of three bills — the first banning abortion, the second allowing abortion on demand until the third month of gestation, and the third defining an embryo as a child in the earliest phase of development (in relation to in vitro fertilization).

The "Stop Abortion" bill passed by a majority of 267-154 in parliament. It will move on to commissioners for deliberation before a final draft of the bill is written and voted upon. The wide margin is seen as a sign that the final bill will pass.

The "Save Women" proposal, presented by abortion advocates and which sought inclusions for the health of the mother and fetal deformity up to 24 weeks,was defeated 230-173.

Since 1993, abortion in Poland has been illegal except in three circumstances — when the woman's life or health is endangered, when the pregnancy is a result of a criminal act, and when a doctor believes the baby has a severe and irreversible handicap or an incurable and life- threatening disease. Some politicians consider this law a compromise that should be left untouched.

“Abortion is the massacre of innocent children, hell for women and a moral disgrace for men,”  said Joanna Banasiuk, a lawyer from the Ordo Iuris Institute for Legal Culture that introduced the bill to the members of Parliament.

The proposed ban on abortion is the work of a grass-roots movement and, contrary to what has been reported in the foreign press, was started neither by the Catholic Church nor by the government. The Polish democratic system enables a group of citizens to initiate a legislative procedure (a bill) in the lower chamber of the Parliament by gathering 100,000 signatures. The citizens’ initiative on abortion received more than 450,000 signatures. A few organizations are behind this legal proposition, including the Ordo Iuris Institute for Legal Culture and The Right to Life Foundation.

The new law would give legal protection to all children from the moment of conception, thereby outlawing all abortions in Poland. The bill specifically states that the doctor who causes an unborn child’s death trying to save women’s life will not be punished.

The focus of the proposed law is not punishing women who do have abortions; in fact, it leaves that to the discretion of judges. Instead, it increases punishment for abortionists and others who harm pregnant women and force them to abort by ruse or threat. What’s more, it also discusses the state’s responsibility in helping parents of handicapped or special-needs children.

Some pro-life organizations did not want the mothers to be punished for abortion and recently created a similar bill without legal responsibility for women. The Parliament has not decided if it will vote on it.

Jerzy Kwasniewski from Ordo Iuris explained that automatically exempting all women from responsibility for abortion means in fact consent to this crime. Kwasniewski alluded to Poland’s Communist past, quoting Helena Wolinska, a Stalinist prosecutor who said that erasing the punishment for women is “equal to elimination of legal protection for the fetus.” In the 1980s, legal experts in Communist Poland wrote that this legal solution was considered “a Socialist achievement, unknown in imperialist world.”

According to Kwasniewski, out of 196 countries, more than 150 protect the life of unborn and at the same time hold mothers responsible for taking their lives.

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It is difficult to know how many abortions are committed legally in Poland. In mid-September, the Right to Life Foundation said during a press conference that the data from the Ministry of Health differs from the National Health Fund (NFZ), which administers the health care system. According to the Ministry of Health, there were 977 abortions in 2014, whereas the NFZ counted 1,812 in the same period.

Mariusz Dzierzawski of the Right to Life Foundation commented to pch24.pl that this could mean that the Ministry uses false data or that some hospitals claim money for abortions that they did not perform.

Anna Kiljan of the Right to Life Foundation explained that 90 percent of abortions in Poland take place because the unborn child is suspected of being sick or handicapped because of prenatal testing, in most cases with Down’s or Turner’s syndrome. Those abortions are performed when the unborn is mature, after the 20th week of gestation. According to British data, more than 10 percent of late abortions end in the live birth of a child who is then left to die unattended.

In recent years, the Polish media reported cases of live birth after abortions performed in public hospitals in Warsaw and Wrocław.

Now there is an opportunity for the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party to make sure those barbaric acts are illegal. However, the Polish government is under strong pressure and intimidation from European Union (EU) organizations, where the abortion lobby is strong.

The PiS faces a choice between “law and justice” for the unborn and the EU demands. The party has a pro-life plank and its electorate hopes it shows courage and a moral integrity consistent with the Polish culture of respecting human life.

According to the latest CBOS poll from March 2016, 66 percent of Poles answered “yes” to the following question: “Do you think human life should be protected always and in all circumstances from the moment of conception till natural death.”

 

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A voice from the debate:

Nazi Practices

Referring to the fact that the current law allows abortions in case of pre-natal defects in the fetus, which means that 4/5 of the procedures are due to Down Syndrome, the Interior Minister Mariusz Blaszczak defended the legislation, saying it would end practices pursued by Nazi Germany.

“I hope we’ll have a change that will mean we depart from eugenics, or practices that are identical with those in Germany at times of Hitler, where abortion was allowed due to disability (illness),” said Mr. Blaszczak.

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1 posted on 09/24/2016 2:10:44 AM PDT by Matt_DZ_PL
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Praise be to God!


2 posted on 09/24/2016 2:19:27 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

I am so proud to be an American of Polish descent!


3 posted on 09/24/2016 2:21:40 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Yep, I'm deplorable!)
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Very good on them!


4 posted on 09/24/2016 2:31:13 AM PDT by Bullish (Elect a Traitor... Get more Treason.)
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To: Matt_DZ_PL
Now the EU will go mad. Soon, my American friends, will you here that Poland is ‘a fascist” “a nazi” country, etc. etc. etc.

Anyway, we don't care.

5 posted on 09/24/2016 2:34:30 AM PDT by Matt_DZ_PL
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Sorry for typo: ...will you hear...,naturally. :)


6 posted on 09/24/2016 2:36:01 AM PDT by Matt_DZ_PL
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Perhaps this will start Europe back from the brink of self-destruction, or as John Paul II stated this tragedy, embracing the culture of death. Pray other countries follow suit or they will be overrun by the muslim invasion and the complete destruction of Western Civilization. Long live Poland, show a dying Europe the way.


7 posted on 09/24/2016 3:19:01 AM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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Maybe from Poland will come another John III Sobieski to lead the fight against the invaders.


8 posted on 09/24/2016 3:37:34 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Way to Go Poland! May God Bless you for doing so!


9 posted on 09/24/2016 3:40:29 AM PDT by CptnObvious
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

good news. hope it catches on


10 posted on 09/24/2016 3:47:45 AM PDT by brucedickinson
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Amen Poland, A Nation Attempting to Stand with God and for His Laws!

Note America and the Constitution that it totes as its founding document do NOT! Know what Evils you Embrace for Reality is Conformity of the Mind to the TRUTH! America is MURDERING its Innocent, Thus it is EVIL!!!!

Yes, it is this Simple! And think for a minute for if we get the Simple Wrong how much worse are we getting the Complicated Wrong???

Life Begins at Conception for without that one single moment in time, when Man, Women, and God intertwine, no other moment is possible for that Individual!


11 posted on 09/24/2016 4:08:50 AM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Christendom, A Moral People, and Return to a Nation/s UNDER God!)
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France should have done that years ago.
They also had some kind government handouts for folks to have kids.

Might have helped reduce the need for all that immigration...


12 posted on 09/24/2016 4:12:10 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the blind will never believe the Truth.)
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Should get rid of those refugees first.


13 posted on 09/24/2016 4:34:15 AM PDT by Rebel2016
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Poland IS blessed - Divine Mercy!


14 posted on 09/24/2016 4:54:38 AM PDT by RebelTXRose (Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for us! PRAY THE ROSARY!)
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To: Rebel2016
We have no "refugees". No islamic murderer is allowed to settle in Poland. Call it “xenophobia”,call it as you please. Anyway, except for muslims all others are warm welcome in Poland.

Such a strange kind of "fascism". (LOL)

15 posted on 09/24/2016 5:01:23 AM PDT by Matt_DZ_PL
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Good for Poland, and this will put them in direct conflict with the abhorrent and soulless EUrocrats.


16 posted on 09/24/2016 5:13:20 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (One party feigns virtue, the other flaunts its corruption. May God reward both as they deserve.)
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To: Matt_DZ_PL

Exactly so. What color do you think they’ll pick for this revolution attempt?


17 posted on 09/24/2016 5:14:15 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (One party feigns virtue, the other flaunts its corruption. May God reward both as they deserve.)
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To: john drake

“Perhaps this will start Europe back from the brink of self-destruction, or as John Paul II stated this tragedy, embracing the culture of death.”

I’m a Protestant, but I have missed that wise and brilliant man every day since he has passed.


18 posted on 09/24/2016 5:15:31 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (One party feigns virtue, the other flaunts its corruption. May God reward both as they deserve.)
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To: john drake
Perhaps this will start Europe back from the brink of self-destruction,

I think Poland is not like Europe in the sense they do not consider themselves Europeans being a former Soviet bloc nation ...

I'm sure Europeans look down their elitist noses at the Polish people...

Certainly they don't look for Poland to be a moral compass...

Just my humble opinion...

19 posted on 09/24/2016 5:15:36 AM PDT by Popman
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To: Psalm 144

They’ve already have! Black, as black as the outfit of the Catholic clergymen. They painted Poland black. Anyway, we laugh at them and their mental obsession about Poland. That’s all :)


20 posted on 09/24/2016 5:22:22 AM PDT by Matt_DZ_PL
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