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To: DoughtyOne

“Nobody has intentions on his nation.”

Of course we do. That’s why we have expanded NATO right up to their border and tried to destabilize their government by assisting opposition parties. (getting our NGOs expelled)
And our peace offer is simple,
1) accept and follow the rules set by an EU and American world order,
2) through the establishment of direct oil and gas and pipeline ownership, or through allowing the installation of a government aligned with the EU, let the EU control all energy supplies coming out of Russia.
3) abandon all alliances with Syria, the only foreign nation with Russian bases.
4) In Syria accept and follow American military command with the goal of removing Assad.
5) Turn over Crimea to the Kiev coup government and allow Sevastopol to become a NATO navy base.
6) Accept, celebrate, and promote homosexuality.

Other than that, we bear them no ill will at all!


6 posted on 09/25/2016 12:49:09 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: DesertRhino

Yep, that’s pretty much it, especially the last one.


7 posted on 09/25/2016 12:59:22 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: DesertRhino

You would do well to read this too.

Man you folks are anti-Western civilization.

Who defends you and Jack, Putin? Really?


9 posted on 09/25/2016 1:13:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Forty-four days until we take measures to end this nightmare. Trump, for the Free World...)
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To: DesertRhino
Good grief... where to begin:

Of course we do. That’s why we have expanded NATO right up to their border and tried to destabilize their government by assisting opposition parties. (getting our NGOs expelled)

This is done by both nations. You weren't aware of that? Really?

And our peace offer is simple,
1) accept and follow the rules set by an EU and American world order,

That is such B.S. Europe has always been at odds with Russia, but Europe is not intent on invading Russia. That wouldn't be good for anyone. So Putin is either acting like a third grade school girl her knees knocking, or as a tin pot dictator.

2) through the establishment of direct oil and gas and pipeline ownership, or through allowing the installation of a government aligned with the EU, let the EU control all energy supplies coming out of Russia.

You ship your product into other nations, and expect to own the pipeline and make all the decisions about that pipeline for the other nations? That really makes sense to you?

3) abandon all alliances with Syria, the only foreign nation with Russian bases.

As far as the activities that were started by Syrians against their government, Putin had no business butting in.

As for Obama's lunacy, I agree that Russia should have gone in. I've never supported Assad, but he was rather laid back against the West. He was allowing Iran to arm Hezbollah in Lebanon and in the Golan Heights region though. That was also very problematic. I don't think it warranted his removal without confronting him on that issue. Failing that, leave him alone. Let his own people do what they want, and stay out of it. Arming them and becoming involved as per McCain/Clinton, was absurd.

It will wasn't indicative of an invasion of Russia.

4) In Syria accept and follow American military command with the goal of removing Assad.

I agree that Russia had motive here. That does not justify him sabre rattling Western nations and upgrading his nukes and using that to make threats against the West.

5) Turn over Crimea to the Kiev coup government and allow Sevastopol to become a NATO navy base.

You're letting your imagination run away with you. Nobody was looking to turn Sevastopol into a NATO navy base.

As for turning Crimea over, he was twenty years too late for that. It was Ukraine territory. Oops!

6) Accept, celebrate, and promote homosexuality. Yes the West was dictating this to Russia. Wow. You've kind of flown off into the netherworld with this one.

Other than that, we bear them no ill will at all!

This flight of fantasy of yours, to build this all up into some case to defend Putin, is..., well, vaporware...

10 posted on 09/25/2016 1:31:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Forty-four days until we take measures to end this nightmare. Trump, for the Free World...)
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