Posted on 10/01/2016 12:07:05 PM PDT by Kaslin
And they keep moving the goal posts too. Every time they say "we will go this far but no further", they immediately start agitating to go further.
In 1973, they agitated to get homosexuality removed from the list of Mental Disorders. Now they want to throw people in jail for not participating in a celebration of homosexuality.
Remember "Don't ask, don't tell?" Now it's "In your face! And if you say anything about faggots in the army, *YOU* will be re-educated or discharged!"
They move the goal posts, and instead of responding to this by viciously retaliating at them with every force we can hurl at them, we just roll over and capitulate.
Well said.
The Republicans during Obola’s terms are nothing more than compromised managed opposition, time and time again.
It has to be NSA based extortion threat that so pussified the GOP.
Nothing like the hard ass republicans who came to power in 1994 and fought Clinton on many and issue, like Hillary healthcare. Bob Barr, B1 Bob, Dick Armey, Jesse Helms, Newt G, and others with convictions and backbone.
It was the 1994 republicans budget discipline and reduced government reforms that turned the economy around back then.
Not Clinton.
RE: “”rolling over for your ‘opposition’ on everything” to be a bad strategy, and in fact, most would become suspicious that they were “throwing the game” if it happened two or three times… how many times has the Republican party betrayed its core constituents?”
I now believe they are both playing for the same team. The Republicans have been lying to us. They are the Washington "Generals" to the Democrat's "Harlem Globe Trotters."
I have been studying the Civil War quite a bit over this last year, and I have come to realize there is a certain cadre of power barons in the Washington DC/Boston corridor that very much prefer the government to spend excessively and legislate in ways that increase their wealth.
This is where much of their wealth and power originates.
What has surprised me is that this stuff pretty much started in the decades prior to the Civil War, and in fact was probably responsible for causing it.
Progressive s must be eradicated
They can not tolerate Aamerica and must be exiled or exterminated
BTW, if just 1 % of America’s 320 Million consistently exercised their 1A right to assemble and protest in DC and all state capitols, we would be in a much better place today culturally, politically, and economically.
Remember the phrase heard commonly by our parents and grandparents when speaking of political outrages?
THE PEOPLE WITH BE UP IN ARMS if __________.
We are going to find out that our apathy is going to be far more costly coping with a 20 Trillion Nat’l debt, than the expense and inconvenience of gathering in capitols while we could.
See my tagline.
That was only part of it. Clinton also got credit for things that had nothing to do with him.
In the 1990s, we were having the cell phone industry "build-out". We were having the Personal Computer "build out". Also the Internet "build out". Technology innovations, long in the pipeline were finally coming into fruition, and @$$wipe Clinton just happened to be in office when these events happened, and therefore people give him credit for these financial improvements, but that is really just a case of the rooster taking credit for the sunrise.
But Bill Clinton did indeed *DO* something that produced massive economic activity in the 1990s.
He accused banks of "RACISM" and threatened and cajoled them into giving out hundreds of thousands of loans to people who were previously considered *BAD CREDIT RISKS*.
He made Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (government deriived organizations) Back those bad loans with tax payer money.
These massive numbers of loans and all this shuffling of paper and debt made it appear as if there was a massive amount of economic activity going on, when it was really just a kabuki dance of selling people's future earnings in a bad Ponzi scheme by intimidating people with the "RACISM" label.
It made it *LOOK* like the economy was booming, but that fiasco came due in 2008. Yes, Bill Clinton CAUSED the financial meltdown of 2008.
But it sure did look good on the economic indicators back in the 1990s.
I agree -- Uniparty is its name.
As usual, your post deserves the Paul Harvey, “Rest of the as Story” award.
Right you are regarding Clinton overturning Glass-Stegal bank securities restrictions and forcing banks to underwrite MILLIONS of risky no income verification loans.
And if we owned the media, we could have hung that albatross around his neck and possibly gotten him thrown in prison for his corruption.
H3ll, if we had owned some media, we could have prevented that Human garbage from ever getting into that position.
The Number one problem facing the nation is a one-party monopoly on almost all of the information streams which the public see.
They own mass communication, and therefore communicate, we don't own anything that reaches that quantity of people, and so we cannot communicate.
As Franklin said:
5. Printers are educated in the Belief, that when Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick; and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter: Hence they chearfully serve all contending Writers that pay them well, without regarding on which side they are of the Question in Dispute.
Truth and Error do *NOT* have fair play. Error has almost universal play, and truth begs for any attention.
Till this is corrected, nothing gets repaired. Media control is the lynchpin of all politics, and nowadays, culture.
From your mouth to god and good men’s ears -
RE: “Till this is corrected, nothing gets repaired. Media control is the lynchpin of all politics, and nowadays, culture.”
The invaders now come not with guns in arms but wombs.
“They don’t have a plan, they have a willingness to fight, and to keep fighting for their next latest goofball “cause” they are always coming up with.”
Ridiculous, It’s not random “goofball causes”, they most certainly do have a plan:
“The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty,” Cloward/Piven. 1966
““National Progressive and Party Infrastructure,” -George Soros, Democracy Alliance.
Also see: SDS, Weather Underground, and 45 Communist Goals to Destroy America.
We don’t have any plans even close to what these people have.
They’ve taken over all the institutions from Media to Academia, Navy, IRS, everything.
Just like they planned to do, a long time ago.
I don’t know what the point of this article is but toward the end he seems to imply that keeping the bad gal and her minions from winning the election isn’t paramount, which it is.
You might find Thomas Fleming’s “A Disease in the Public Mind: A New Understanding of Why We Fought the Civil War” well worth reading.
A campaign that included vilifying the South began very early, in the 1790s, led by the Essex Junto of Massachusetts.
“(Clinton) made Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (government derived organizations) Back those bad loans with tax payer money. “
That’s simply not so despite how often that idea gets floated around here.
Any obligation that the taxpayer had with respect to Fannie and Freddy had ceased by 1970 when they became private corporations listed on the NYSE.
When the mortgage bubble burst there was no legal obligation for America’s taxpayers to backstop those companies or their stockholders, despite their origins as gov’t agencies.
If you want to find the culprit who decided to leave America’s taxpayers holding that bag the honor belongs to GW Bush and no one else.
” Bill Clinton CAUSED the financial meltdown of 2008.”
Hardly. The majority of subprime loans written during the bubble were made by private market lenders wholly free of gov’t regulation. They were writing this stuff because it was extremely profitable and they had fooled themselves into thinking that they were protected from loss due to a misunderstanding of David X Li’s Gaussian copula function. Private sector financial engineering played as big a role, if not a bigger one, in the 2008 financial crisis as any gov’t policy. But if for argument’s sake we want to put the onus on Clinton, well his power stopped in January 2001 and GW Bush had years to issue orders countermanding Clinton’s policies.
“Right you are regarding Clinton overturning Glass-Stegal bank securities restrictions and forcing banks to underwrite MILLIONS of risky no income verification loans.”
Fine except that the “overturning”, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley bill signed by Clinton, only repealed two sections of Glass-Steagall and those dealt mostly with selling insurance, which Citigroup had already been doing.
Repealing those sections had absolutely nothing to do with “forcing banks to underwrite no income verification loans”. You are conflating this with the CRA, the Community Reinvestment Act, which also didn’t force banks to make no income verification loans. NINJA loans, Option ARMS, 125% of purchase loans were the invention of private sector shadow banks that weren’t subject to banking regulation. They made these loans because they were making a fortune writing them, bundling the paper, and selling the CDOs and the derivatives based upon them.
If you want a real culprit in the financial crisis try the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 which overturned nothing but prevented OTC derivatives from being regulated. This is where the credit default swaps disaster grew.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to clarify root causes and complex chain of events.
Risky mortgage underwriting led to defaults that resulted in losses of Billions of dollars.
Banksters amplified risky mortgage default damage by having bundled those mortgages into falsely up-rated Credit Default Swap Option derivative securities.
Speculative trading of CDOs reached unsustainable high levels until the whole deceptive scheme collapsed, resulting in bank destabilizing losses of HUNDREDS of BILLIONS that rippled through world banks and lead to the 2008 world recession.
The Security Exchange Commission was negligent in regulatory oversight, because they along with the big five audit firms were compromised by underlying conflicts of interest with clients.
Boy I’m sure glad nothing like that could ever happen again /s
Somewhere around 2000 the mortgage industry changed. The process of writing mortgages was split off from the funding of mortgages. The old model had loan officers working for the lenders who made the loans, and since the lenders often kept those loans there was an inherent interest among all involved in seeing that those loans weren’t risky.
The new model changed that. Mortgages were now written by independent brokers. The firms funding the mortgages, many of them non-banks, weren’t interested in holding the mortgages, they intended to bundle them and sell them off as CDOs and various related derivatives.
This divorce of vetting borrowers and writing mortgages from the funding of them dismantled safeguards that used to exist. Pre-2000 investors didn’t have much worry when they purchased mortgage paper. Most of it was conventional paper written by Fannie and Freddy, and conventional loans are by design low-risk.
The new model was developed by Fannie and Freddy’s rivals. The paper was non-conventional, high risk, but also high yield, which attracted investors. It was also mislabeled by the rating agencies so investors didn’t know the risk that they were taking on, and it’s likely that they didn’t know how the lending process itself had changed making the paper they were buying much riskier.
The mortgage bubble was a perfect storm involving a whole host of factors, most of which still seem to exist. The memory of getting burned is fresh enough that it won’t be repeated right away but once memories fade and a new generation grows up all bets are off.
Can’t thank you and other Very knowledgeable FReepers who care about this country, justice and truth.
Very much appreciate that you took the time and effort to clearly sum-up a complex nation / world changing topic.
FR > Grad school
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