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To: Kaslin

The right of self defense is not superior to the right of ownership of private property. They are equal in their authority. As such, to be on a private property (be it hospital, church, bar etc) requires the private property owners permission. Therefore, the owner of that property has the RIGHT to require conditions be met to be on that property. One of those conditions can be the disarming of individuals.

Having said that, creating a law that automatically disarms a citizen is perhaps a step too far. In my opinion, the carrier should be confronted either by signage or in person and asked to leave. If they do not leave, charged with trespass.


15 posted on 10/07/2016 8:59:14 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Very good point about automatic soft disarmament. (I say soft because most restrictions in MO do not carry force of law). Posting would be a much better idea.

Retail stores and workplaces are not mentioned generically in MO firearms law. There seem to be far fewer “No Guns” signs than there used to be. And even when there is one, it is essentially identical in force to a “No Barefoot” sign.

The problem now with MO firearms law is the crazy relationships (in both directions) between concealed and open carry. I’m concerned that people are going to get in trouble due to misunderstanding.


16 posted on 10/07/2016 9:06:50 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: taxcontrol

> asked to leave. If they do not leave, charged with trespass.

This is exactly the MO law. The default of “no guns in certain areas” is still there, but it is up to the owner/manager to
- detect the firearm
- ask the carrier to leave (or not)


17 posted on 10/07/2016 9:09:55 AM PDT by old-ager
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