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There are two conclusive and certain ways to beat stealth.

1. Use VHF radar to get your heat-seeking missiles within a mile...

2. Take out the stealth aircraft on the ground.

I'm pretty sure Russia and China are working on both.

1 posted on 10/08/2016 10:32:20 AM PDT by Mariner
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Obama can’t wait to try and then Surrender


2 posted on 10/08/2016 10:33:51 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Not if there aren’t any flying there.

So call your Congressman and tell him to push back against the Obama support for ISIS.


3 posted on 10/08/2016 10:36:52 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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You know a stealth cruise missiles would come in really useful right now. Too bad the dems sunk the program.
5 posted on 10/08/2016 10:39:44 AM PDT by RedWulf (Trump:Front Lines. Obama: Back Nine. Hillary:Nap Time.)
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NONE of those planes should be used in the Syrian arena
6 posted on 10/08/2016 10:39:52 AM PDT by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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"As tensions between Washington and Moscow flare, the Russian military is warning the United States that it has the ability to target stealth aircraft such as the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit that might be operating over Syria with the Almaz-Antey S-400 (NATO: SA-21 Growler) and the recently arrived S-300V4 (NATO: SA-23 Gladiator) air and missile defense systems."

Love to know Israel's response too the S-300 & 400. And despite Obama's prickly relationship with Bibi and Israel, did they share their counter too these weapons w/ BHO....

7 posted on 10/08/2016 10:42:39 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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Well, the Serbs managed to shoot down an F117 with old Russian equipment. We tried to pass off the shoot down as a one in a million shot a “magic bb, but was it? So yes, they could.


8 posted on 10/08/2016 10:42:52 AM PDT by Truth29
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There probably is a fairly large window of opportunity to create false positives and create confusion resulting in wasted launches.

I suspect that it is part of the plan.


9 posted on 10/08/2016 10:44:36 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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Never underestimate the capabilities of a potential enemy.

No one thought Japan could produce the Zero fighter or attack Pearl Harbor.
No one expected Russia to produce the T-34 tank, the Mig-15 or Sputnik.
How many expected Osama bin Laden to have the capability to mastermind 9/11?

10 posted on 10/08/2016 10:44:43 AM PDT by eekitsagreek
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There are two conclusive and certain ways to beat stealth.
1. Use VHF radar to get your heat-seeking missiles within a mile...
2. Take out the stealth aircraft on the ground.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Also, despite the propaganda about the invincible F-35, robot aircraft could fly circles around it because the human pilot cannot take the same G-forces. (Think China: robot-manufacturing capital of the world.)


11 posted on 10/08/2016 10:46:54 AM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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the questions should be could they and would they? Maybe they could get off a lucky shot but they know the ramifications for such a thing would be huge, under any other President. But I believe Putin surely has reserved that decision for himself of some very high ranking person under strict orders to get it right before pulling the trigger.


13 posted on 10/08/2016 10:57:30 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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While the left, the MSM and other NeverTrumpers obsess over Trump’s “lewd” comments the Red Menace is awakening and aren’t you confident of the DC team we have to fight them? We are in such deep trouble.


14 posted on 10/08/2016 10:57:36 AM PDT by dowcaet (.)
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Any given day they could get lucky and the U.S warplane could be unlucky.


21 posted on 10/08/2016 11:15:20 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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The leadership of the United States are both corrupt and stupid. They seem anxious to get something going before it is possible to block it. Do the math...


25 posted on 10/08/2016 11:38:05 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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Of course, they could.

The question should be would they?

If only Vlad would chill out a few more weeks. But our Terrorist in Chief the one who’s really pushing it. Anything to stay in office, to declare martial law to get Hellary into office but mainly to destroy the US.


26 posted on 10/08/2016 12:20:28 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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“I’m pretty sure Russia and China are working on both”

I’m pretty sure they have hacked, or bought information on how to defeat our Stealth Aircraft.


27 posted on 10/08/2016 12:22:50 PM PDT by DAC21
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The U-2 spy plane was thought to fly above range of Russian missiles as well.


29 posted on 10/08/2016 12:39:50 PM PDT by donozark (My thoughts are not very deep. But they are of and inquisitive nature.)
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No need to, they could just sink the carrier they are flying from.

Starting a fight with the Russians over Syria would be insane.

32 posted on 10/08/2016 3:42:54 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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You know I just thought of this...

One of the Aviation-Leak type websites has caught a couple of F-117A's reactivated via a zoom lens at Tonapah.

One looks like it has a hump back or some fuselage mod, but it could be heat distortion from the long distance in the photo....

So why are they active now with all this "talk".....

33 posted on 10/09/2016 6:45:18 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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Stealth does NOT confer invisibility. Even if it did, it would not confer invisibility to optical or infra red trackers.

Stealth never was intended to confer the sort of capability to ignore enemy radar in any mission profile.


35 posted on 10/09/2016 6:55:37 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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Could Russia Really Shoot Down an F-22, F-35 or B-2 Stealth Bomber in Syria?

Of course they could.

And, BTW, the "National Interest" is interested in a number of nations, it's not clear that the USA makes the cut.

36 posted on 10/09/2016 7:00:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Rise)
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